Vigilence

[Mammoth]

I'm having an arguement with one of my guild members about the tooltip of Vigilence. Does is gain vengence by the targets damage taken or damage done?

I.e. Do I put it on the top DPS or on the OT?

Edit: Here's the tooltip: "Focus your protective gaze on a group or raid target, reducing their damage taken by 3%. In addition, each time they are hit by an attack your Taunt cooldown is refreshed and you gain Vengeance as if 20% of the damage was done to you. Lasts 30 min. This effect can only be on one target at a time."

[GrodinLB]

In my opinion, Vig is more or less worthless without the threat transfer mechanic it used to have.

[Mammoth]

Its about gaining vengence faster.

[Cheesey]

says damage taken so i'd imagine for the OT

[BurningStick]

It is for your offtank, no argument here.

[meeekus]

In my opinion, Vig is more or less worthless without the threat transfer mechanic it used to have.

You sir, are an idiot. Check out the atk power increase and write back.
http://i.imgur.com/YIQwV.jpg

[Deleted]

-3% damage taken for the other tank, taunt reset every now and then, having vengeance at it's full potential from the first second after a tank swap.

It's quite strong even without the threat transfer.

[fizikz]

think it's worth it in pvp to stack up vengeance (stick it on a healer, or FC) while presumably everyone ignores the prot warrior?

[Deleted]

Put it on any other tank in the raid, simple as that.

In my opinion, Vig is more or less worthless without the threat transfer mechanic it used to have.

It's not meant to provide that function. Whole design of vigilance has been revamped, but doesn't make it useless. It's a very powerful tool if used properly.

[shokter]

I am thinking of dropping it from my aoe/5man spec and only keeping it for my sing tar raid spec...I am not sure I see the value in having it for heroics. Does anyone have any reasons I may have overlooked?

[JustintimeSS]

I am thinking of dropping it from my aoe/5man spec and only keeping it for my sing tar raid spec...I am not sure I see the value in having it for heroics. Does anyone have any reasons I may have overlooked?

Nope you have the right idea. Without an OT to put it on there is no reason to take it as a talent. I am currently DS prot and my AE tank build does nto have it while my self healing raid build does.

Also, those that think this talent is garbage you just keep on thinking that. LOL.