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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfonia View Post
    I'll take better screenshots later, have an alt raid atm, lol.
    Could you try to find out what the icd/procrate is?

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    Nice Screenshot! Some info would be nice on the proc etc...

    Also - Does it still work if you enter combat with FlameScyth equipt to gain "Druid of the flame buff" and then swap weapon to the Kiril, Fury of Beasts ( http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=78473 )

    Huge Fire Kitty would be pretty awesome. Bad for DPS - Good for Ego!

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    you mean a huge fire kitty ?

    that is intresting, yet i still dont have the staff &@##$%$%!
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    Does it also cumulate with vyrkul horn from archeology? (Im using it with swap from macros and that's make fire kitty already big - if both could work together... mrr)

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    I don't think size modifiers stack anymore, at least the Drinking Horn doesn't stack with the "larger... and oranger..." effect of Hallow's End Pumpkin Treat, though those are the same mod values. Might be different for unequal values.

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    Horn and heroism stack that's why Im hoping for this one to stack as well

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    Testing all that today, was on my to do list before checking MMO again haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Could you try to find out what the icd/procrate is?
    ICD for Beast Fury (http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=108016), which allows you to gain the stacking Agi/Size buff, is 50 seconds.

    The Agi/Size buff (http://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=109864), can proc ~every second up to 10. It lasts 10 seconds once fully stacked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonsys
    Also - Does it still work if you enter combat with FlameScyth equipt to gain "Druid of the flame buff" and then swap weapon to the Kiril, Fury of Beasts ( http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=78473 )
    You can't gain the Kiril buffs when you have "Druid of the Flame" from Fandral's staff. I tried:

    - Starting combat with Fandral's equipped, getting firecat buff, then equipping Kiril's. Didn't see a proc in 2 minutes of combat.
    - Starting combat with Kiril's, getting Kiril's buff, switching to Fandral's with 8 seconds left on Fury of the Beast. Kiril's buff immediately wore off.
    - Starting combat with the "on use" of Fandral's, immediately lose the buff when you change staves (obviously )


    Quote Originally Posted by Calathiel
    Does it also cumulate with vyrkul horn from archeology? (Im using it with swap from macros and that's make fire kitty already big - if both could work together... mrr)
    :x <bad-lazy player>I haven't levelled archaeology </bad-lazy player>
    Last edited by Sinfonia; 2011-11-02 at 03:17 PM.

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    I understand losing the Kiril buff when you unequip that weapon, but why does the firecat buff prevent the Kiril buff? That sounds like it was specifically coded that way :/ Otherwise the firecat buff would fade upon unequipping the Flamescythe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    I understand losing the Kiril buff when you unequip that weapon, but why does the firecat buff prevent the Kiril buff? That sounds like it was specifically coded that way :/ Otherwise the firecat buff would fade upon unequipping the Flamescythe.
    Yeah, I have no idea . I thought it was dumb.

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    - Starting combat with Fandral's equipped, getting firecat buff, then equipping Kiril's. Didn't see a proc in 2 minutes of combat.
    - Starting combat with Kiril's, getting Kiril's buff, switching to Fandral's with 8 seconds left on Fury of the Beast. Kiril's buff immediately wore off.
    - Starting combat with the "on use" of Fandral's, immediately lose the buff when you change staves (obviously )
    Why do people make simple things complicated?
    If you just want big fire cat
    Take Potion of Illusion, copy fire cat in your human form. Autoattack something in your human form with Kiril.
    Problem solved, now you can take screenshot of huge fire cat and forget about it.

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    Assuming a 50sec icd, 15% proc chance, it look's like it can be averaged to a ~72% agi bonus on the weapon. So +327 agi on the RF version, +370 on the normal version and +417 on the heroic version.

    Using the stat weights from the guide, I get to the following values:

    10578 H Kiril, Fury of Beasts
    9515 H Spire of Coagulated Globules
    9370 N Kiril, Fury of Beasts
    8444 N Spire of Coagulated Globules
    8297 RF Kiril, Fury of Beasts
    7904 H Fandral's Flamescythe
    7495 RF Spire of Coagulated Globules

    So it's very good, but not to the extent of surpassing higher ilvl weapons.
    Last edited by Mihir; 2011-11-03 at 10:05 AM.

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    Looks like a lot of us will replace H Fandral's on the first day of Dragon soul. Even to RF version.

    BB firecat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by traen View Post
    Looks like a lot of us will replace H Fandral's on the first day of Dragon soul. Even to RF version.

    BB firecat.
    nope we wont as agi staves have a low droprate as they are only uses by 4 out of 30 specs
    besides id rather let a hunter outbid me on dkp rather then loosing fire kitty.

    %$#$#%@ and ffs i still dont have fire kitty
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    nope we wont as agi staves have a low droprate as they are only uses by 4 out of 30 specs
    besides id rather let a hunter outbid me on dkp rather then loosing fire kitty.
    I doubt that you will use DKP in guild LFR runs.
    You have decent chance to get it because you will kill deathwing 2 times - once in lfr and once in normal mode. Next week you will kill it 2 times again and get it for sure.
    One week earlier one week later but you will have to replace it so why not to do it now and get dps increase?

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    not realy LFR is a pug and ppl wiil go QQ after the 3rd wipe and leave :P

    besides does the LFR have a lockout? i thoguh it was free so that you could go again and again and again and again and again

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    Quote Originally Posted by traen View Post
    One week earlier one week later but you will have to replace it so why not to do it now and get dps increase?
    becase i still dont have the flame staff. and i want to enojy fie kitty more then 1 or 2 weeks tbh. every serius feral is a fire cat apart from me sadly :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    not realy LFR is a pug and ppl wiil go QQ after the 3rd wipe and leave :P

    besides does the LFR have a lockout? i thoguh it was free so that you could go again and again and again and again and again

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    becase i still dont have the flame staff. and i want to enojy fie kitty more then 1 or 2 weeks tbh. every serius feral is a fire cat apart from me sadly :/
    I got mine about a month ago and quite honestly after waiting so long I was bored with it after a few days.

    LFR has a 4 hour lockout if you leave on the PTR. You're also only eligible for loot from each boss once per week. So even if 5 plate items drop off the 1st boss you won't be eligible your second time through if 5 agi items drop.
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  17. #2657
    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    So it's very good, but not to the extent of surpassing higher ilvl weapons.
    I agree, Kiril's is very good. But I think there's one downside... you would have to time your Berzerks to match the buff's duration. But maybe the encounter says "no" ... and you're wasting either a Berzerk or the agility buff. Additionally you might have to run away from the boss while slowly growing in size... This weapon might be superb... or very very frustrating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steellynx View Post
    I agree, Kiril's is very good. But I think there's one downside... you would have to time your Berzerks to match the buff's duration. But maybe the encounter says "no" ... and you're wasting either a Berzerk or the agility buff. Additionally you might have to run away from the boss while slowly growing in size... This weapon might be superb... or very very frustrating.
    That happened to me twice per kill of Heroic Morchok I was a huge caster throwing out Wraths behind a rock since you can't melee at that time =/.

  19. #2659
    Not to derail the discussion of new weaponry, but I have a question regarding trinkets and reforging. More specifically, Matrix Restabilizer (normal).

    How many am I gimping myself if I do not reforge to haste for a haste proc? Would it mean I'm better off using an entirely difficult trinket in that case?

    I ask because I sometimes have fps/lag problems in burn/stack phases, and I'm afraid with a lot of haste would lead to a lot of wasted energy. Also, my guild likes to send me up into the air on Alysrazor because they can count on me not taking unnecessary damage or falling (yes, even with the nerfs people are failing. You can't fix stupid, you know?).

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    You still will want to use it, its just that the mastery proc is worth a bit less than the haste proc if you're using 4T12.

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