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    pshaw, that's my avg for Shreds. =P
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    so isnt engineeringTHE best profesino as you get ~ 80 agility and also the cogwheel helm gems
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    so isnt engineeringTHE best profesino as you get ~ 80 agility and also the cogwheel helm gems
    Cogwheel gems are just a way to have the stats you prefer on yor helm, if there's an helm out there with those same stats, it's not a gain (tsanga).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shornaal View Post
    Cogwheel gems are just a way to have the stats you prefer on yor helm, if there's an helm out there with those same stats, it's not a gain (tsanga).
    so engineering helms do not coem whit base stats ?
    hmm that explains it :P
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    Rocket boost is overpowered for FL/Ravage and the glove bonus stacks, so engi is no small potatoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exostential View Post
    Rocket boost is overpowered for FL/Ravage
    What are you talking about, Nitro Boosts or Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket? None of these affect our abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    so engineering helms do not coem whit base stats ?
    hmm that explains it :P
    Correct. In our case it has Agi, Sta, metagem and those 2 eng sockets.
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    You may want to add http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/96264 for the enchant section

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    Hey Mihir, noticed you changed the trinket BiS. On EJ you said Mew is showing H: EotC BiS. I understand why its better, but when I plugged my stats into Mew and replaced my FD with H: EotC, my second is UW, it was roughly a 700 dps loss.

    Does the trinket become BiS with more heroic gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    What are you talking about, Nitro Boosts or Hand-Mounted Pyro Rocket? None of these affect our abilities.
    I saw a post either on here or FD discussing how best to use dash in conjunction with running out and leaping back in for ravage and I was more or less jokingly pointing out that the boosts are one more and one better way to execute said maneuver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ledonn View Post
    Hey Mihir, noticed you changed the trinket BiS. On EJ you said Mew is showing H: EotC BiS. I understand why its better, but when I plugged my stats into Mew and replaced my FD with H: EotC, my second is UW, it was roughly a 700 dps loss.

    Does the trinket become BiS with more heroic gear?
    The big difference is the passive stats; the 363 agi on H:EotC blows away the 193 hit / 128 mastery on FD. The FD proc is obviosuly better than the EotC proc but the difference between the procs is smaller than the difference between the passive stats.

    Switching FD for H:EotC grants me about 120 dps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    The big difference is the passive stats; the 363 agi on H:EotC blows away the 193 hit / 128 mastery on FD. The FD proc is obviosuly better than the EotC proc but the difference between the procs is smaller than the difference between the passive stats.

    Switching FD for H:EotC grants me about 120 dps.
    So speaking of these three trinkets; I also have problems with them. Currently going with FD and HC EoTC. Should I switch FD out for UW? I still feel like FD > UW though and can't find a page where it's actually counted on.

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    Putting your stats into Mew I get a ~110 dps increase switching FD for UW (from 24270 to 24383).

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    hey mihir my armory is http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...raker/advanced ,im pretty much in 359 gear and hope to get weapon this week, the thing is that rawr says that haste>crit for me while mew says crit>haste,im rly confused about this so i need some help.Also whats the best 4parts of T11 to get?I see u having ur geared goin for haste so how do u feel with it?is it better for ur gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Putting your stats into Mew I get a ~110 dps increase switching FD for UW (from 24270 to 24383).
    Thank you very much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drdraker View Post
    hey mihir my armory is http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...raker/advanced ,im pretty much in 359 gear and hope to get weapon this week, the thing is that rawr says that haste>crit for me while mew says crit>haste,im rly confused about this so i need some help.Also whats the best 4parts of T11 to get?I see u having ur geared goin for haste so how do u feel with it?is it better for ur gear?
    There seems some level of crit (around 42% raidbuffed) after which additional crit goes down in value while haste goes up. Tho the exact behavior of this point is still unclear.

    Using the latest version of Mew, I get the following stat values for you:
    Weapon DPS: 4.72
    Agility: 2.92
    Strength: 2.24
    Mastery: 1.075
    AP: 1.067
    Crit: 0.922
    Haste: 0.916
    Hit: 0.82
    Exp: 0.82

    So when you get a bit more agi, you can probably start dropping some crit rating in favor of haste rating, but at this moment crit is still better.

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    im still a bit confused at the whole haste overtaking crit thing. can someone explain to me how haste becomes better? at what point do i pick haste over crit? im in iLlevel 357 all purples except 2 of my gear pieces and all my haste/hit/expertise is now crit and mastery. again how is this haste thing working and when do i make a switch? is it similar to the stacking agility / stacking armor pen in wrath?

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    Thanks mihir for doin that for me ,theres comes another question tho mate ,u said when i get a bit more agi,can u enlight this for me?i mean how much more agi i should start goin for haste mate?

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    i didnt realize someone was asking a simlar question, ill have to read the last few posts as well :P

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    Mihir,

    How much agi would you say one needs to make the leap from reforging haste -> crit, to going crit -> haste. I'm at work and have no access to mew atm, but I'm also very impatient in knowing something when it pops in my head.

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