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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    i think it was simcraft or some other simulation website where it showed 372 hc geared feral whit hit & exp caps did 60 less dps then the non capped version ;P, considering there are indeed bosse where we got tobe infront it mgiht actualy be woth getting exp capped.
    Erm. No. Problem isn't that Expertise is worth less than Crit/Haste or Mastery, it's the when attacking in front the expertise cap moves up enormously due to the parries you'd be trying to negate.

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    Expertise becomes the best secondary stat for the "frontal fights", 'till the dodge cap. Yes, better then mastery.

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    yes thats what i meant :P and there are indeed quite some fights outthere. so if you arent all hardcore and you want ot use the same gear on all fights i gues getting exp capped aint bad :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elunedra View Post
    yes thats what i meant :P and there are indeed quite some fights outthere. so if you arent all hardcore and you want ot use the same gear on all fights i gues getting exp capped aint bad :P
    I have no issue with your suggestion of getting expertise or it not being worthless. I do mind your wording. Going for the Exp Cap is
    1) next to impossible in your regular gear
    2) stupendous when reforging every single piece of gear to it.

    Feel free to call it soft cap or anything, but the way you put it sounds like you're suggesting the hard cap, which is just silly (and naturally the exp value drops by half when past the dodge cap).

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    ofcourse, i though it was clear that i meant the soft cap not the hard cap lol.
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    Made a post about our dps in 4.2, please show your support

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...1590602?page=1

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    BTW, Mihir, you going to volunteer for the EJ guide?

    Was tempted to forward you as a suggestion to Carebear

    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Made a post about our dps in 4.2, please show your support

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...1590602?page=1
    Right, [liked] the post. One thing you might want to add is the Positional Requirement of Shred/Backstab. Ragnaros will be screwing us over once more. Well, you, as I won't be raiding, most likely, but that's beside the point and a crábton of commas.
    Last edited by Duilliath; 2011-06-02 at 10:53 PM.

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    Think it's not letting me support cause I have US account and those are the EU forums. Or I'm just blind and can't find the like button.

    Anyway, checked the numbers Simulationcraft gives and it really scares me. I mean I heard all about it but yikes. Only people lower have perfectly viable alternative DPS specs, while now both Feral and Balance are way down. I mean, Frost Mages, the well-known PvP spec becoming superior to us for PvE raid DPS? That's just sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Ragnaros will be screwing us over once more.
    It is possible to get "behind" him and shred, tested this yesterday. Somewhat like Sinestra.
    Last edited by calibro; 2011-06-03 at 09:24 AM.
    Feral dps :3
    Bring back ArP rating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by calibro View Post
    It is possible to get "behind" him and shred, tested this yesterday. Somewhat like Sinestra.
    Without pissing off your healers due to LoS/Range issues? There's a reason pets keep despawning when trying to get behind Ragnaros.

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    Who actually puts mangle and rake on all target if in a large mob? Don’t forget that your not the only one doing dps. In a dungeon, if there are 4 enemies for example, there is no way that you would have enough energy to put mangle and rake on all 4 target (without popping berserk) by the time that they are all dead,.. You would just swipe them…

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    This may surprise you, but we weren't talking about random dungeons here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Without pissing off your healers due to LoS/Range issues? There's a reason pets keep despawning when trying to get behind Ragnaros.
    As i said - like with Sinestra, tanks on the left, cats on the right, or in reverse.
    Feral dps :3
    Bring back ArP rating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Made a post about our dps in 4.2, please show your support

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...1590602?page=1
    Made a stick request! since it won't let US post or rate on EU forums. Nice clear concise post.

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    is anyone using landslide?? whats it like compared to 130 agi
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    Quote Originally Posted by invader View Post
    is anyone using landslide?? whats it like compared to 130 agi
    Expensive and worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duilliath View Post
    Expensive and worse.
    lol so tru

    if you look at the agility to AP converson:
    130 agi * 1.1 (MotW) * 1.05 (Leather) * 2 (Agi to Ap) = 300 AP
    and then we dont even take into acount the crit% it gives.

    so for landslide to be better then 130 agility it needs more then 30% uptime and i think it only has a 25% uptime.

    BTW: still no news on my fire staff !
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    k cool cheers, im still waiting for halfus staff lol pff,, aint seen it drop ever using zg one atm
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    Is there any point in spending gold on Tsanga's Helm and Unheeded Warning at this point with patch 4.2 around the corner? They sell for around 8k and 7k respectively on my realm.

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    should be 1 month/5 weeks till patch unless its delayed. get unheeded atm its BiS along with heroic cyclone/praetor.theres no trinket which is better than it atm and even when firelands is released you need a certain level of gear to down bosses. za/zg dont have trinkets so your options are limited too.
    get tia's grace from lost city of tolvir heroic to replace left eye of rajh. another question you should be asking is if you should get 2pc t11 bonus with valor points before fluid death depending on bh drop and how much valor u have atm

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