The Cat Guide - 4.3

[Zheryn]

It's a really tiny difference, so either option is fine. Many will choose the staff for the fire effect, others might find the polearm easier to acquire.

Ofc it won't be a very big DPS difference between two items of the same item level, but the staff has crit + our worst secondary stat while the polearm has crit + our best secondary stat so I guess everyone still will aim to get the trash polearm.

[Selverein]

Ofc it won't be a very big DPS difference between two items of the same item level, but the staff has crit + our worst secondary stat while the polearm has crit + our best secondary stat so I guess everyone still will aim to get the trash polearm.

I highly doubt that. The difference will be in the range of 50 DPS and a vast majority of people will prefer the fire kitty effect, I'm sure. Those who can afford to will likely have both weapons so they can upgrade to heroic quality as soon as possible.

Also, mastery is still not "proven" to be our worst secondary stats. A few sources have recently hinted that it might be crit that will drop to the lowest value. And even so, it appears that all secondaries will be more or less equal as we progress through T12.

[calibro]

So there are the first logs of shannox 25 heroic online. We killed him today to, and i'm on the 22nd rank.

I've watched some of these ranked ferals in the arsenal and it's suprising that some of the top-ranked druids have reforged to exp and hit und some of them to mastery/haste (like me) and they are all in a ranking. so in my opinion it's not a question of stats, it's more a question of skill and a clean rota.

i would like to link the ranking of shannox 25hm, but:

You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times.

I was ranked 1st for a couple of hours (now i'm like 5th), and i'm hit/exp capped. It is very convenient and, due to some kiting mechanics, suits the fight well.
(also top1 in recount, KITTY POWA)

[Smartie]

If I do go with hit and expertise cap now, what is the best secondary stat, still mastery or should I aim for haste?

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../mayara/simple

[Mihir]

I went for a mix of maxed mastery and expertise (mostly taking away from crit and some haste), and it seems to be working quite well. Tho we're still working on Rhyo so can't post proper logs yet :P

[Kreff]

I am not going to create a new thread about it and maybe it was already discussed in here, I apologize.
The question is if I change Jindo's Verdict with Vicious Gladiator's Pike - would that give me a serious DPS increase? Or I shouldn't waste honor points on it?
The armory is http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...D1%81/advanced

[Elunedra]

if you provide the item links or stats i could do the calculation using some madeup stat values

[mmPixel]

Any chance someone could create a non heroic best in slot list?

Thanks

[Insomnium]

Any chance someone could create a non heroic best in slot list?

Thanks

Aint that just the same list but without the heroic tags :P? Excluding Sinestra loot too.

[zarzer]

quoted
A possible sequence for the first 10 seconds of the fight that has been working well for me:

• Feral Charge
• Faerie Fire (while in transit towards the target)
• Mangle (to get the debuff going; is also more damage than shred if there's no mangle debuff and bleed on the target yet)
• Rake
• Shred (to get rid of some energy since we're about to use TF) (mangle instead if you got 4T11)
• Tiger's Fury (this might cap your energy for a little bit)
• Ravage (with 15% damage bonus from TF, stampede buff should still be on you by this time)
• Rip (also with TF bonus. if you don't have 5 combo points yet, do another shred first)
• Rake (with 15% damage bonus from TF)
• Savage Roar

quoted

You will wanna use rip BEFORE ravage to have the 30% haste from the feral charge buff...

[Mihir]

What does rip have to do with 30% haste?
And the 30% haste is from bear-charge only, not cat.

Or do you suggest charging in as bear and then going cat? You won't get a free Ravage then.

[Collie]

You will wanna use rip BEFORE ravage to have the 30% haste from the feral charge buff...

Bleeds aren't affected by haste, and the +30% haste only comes from using the Feral Charge (Bear) variant.

Mihir beat me to it.

[Nathanyel]

I would delay the Ravage until after the Rip, instead use a Mangle/Shred to get to 5CP if the first 3 styles you mentioned did not get you there already, Rip, then immediately Ravage. Considering 4-5 GCS = seconds plus a bit of user "lag" have passed, the Stampede buff should still be running. Depending on Omen procs, you might even want to put in another Shred to dump energy. And try to refresh the Rake near the end of TF, of course.

By the way, is clipping Rip once you can TF again still viable? Or would the CPs be better spent on a FB?

[Epoch]

I am not going to create a new thread about it and maybe it was already discussed in here, I apologize.
The question is if I change Jindo's Verdict with Vicious Gladiator's Pike - would that give me a serious DPS increase? Or I shouldn't waste honor points on it?
The armory is http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/страж-смерти/Креффус/advanced

Compare both weapons on wowhead, the pvp item has a higher ilvl and with it higher dps at 623.3 versus jindo's of 589.4. If you dont mind the loss of mastery on jindo's, the 359 pvp weapon gives the following:

18 Agi
28 Sta
228 Resilience (2.24%)
13 Crit (0.07%)
33.9 Melee DPS
239 Melee Min Damage
358 Melee Max Damage

[Hyla]

Thaaank jooooo!! Awesome guide!

[-Zait-]

Very nicely put together o:

[Ekthelion]

Or do you suggest charging in as bear and then going cat? You won't get a free Ravage then.

And doesn't the buff wear off when switch from bear form?

[Elunedra]

And doesn't the buff wear off when switch from bear form?

That also :P

[Simbah]

So i've watched some of the ferals in the world top guilds. lika sejta (guildleader of paragon EU-lightning's blade), he's feral now nd has got 6/7 HMs

If i believe the armory he is reforging haste/hit to crit/mastery like before 4.2.

And I don't think Sejta is a noob or doesn't employ with his class.

so what du you think about this?

[Nathanyel]

never trust the armory - a simple explanation might be he's testing it.