1. #1801
    Quote Originally Posted by Tygroen View Post
    I'd say get the 365 ring from doing the new daily quests. It's available after the first 3 days, if I remember correctly. And the upgrade of that would be Widow's Kiss or w/e it is called from Beth'tilac.

    EDIT: To answer your question, no it wouldn't. Using Mihir's relative stat values posted a while back (which, by no means is a 100% end-all guide for how you should gear, as I'm sure he made pretty clear) the PvP ring is a 62 dps loss, compared to the Signet.
    Already picked up Matoclaw's ring, replace the old VP ring with it. So now it's just a matter of waiting on a drop I guess. Thanks for the quick answer
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    Hey Mihir, was it you that said that the rep items could be upgraded? And if so, wouldn't that make Flamebinding Girdle (Haste/Hit) best in slot over Riplimb's Lost Collar (crit/exp)?

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    So I managed to pick up Fandral's Flamescythe tonight (yay!). Also 11th in WoL on Baleroc 25 = woohoo I beat Mihir on a fight - he must have been sleeping ;-). Interesting trick we discovered: if a druid stands close to you when you're in fire cat form (on-use effect) and pops a potion of illusion, they copy your form and can shift to flightform and.... FLYING FIRE CAT OMG!
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    Speaking of Flame Druids, according to some recent hotfixes, you were able to use/keep the Flame Druid costume in Flight Form before that >_< The item itself is of course quite a jab across druids' faces anyway (again)
    I don't know why they don't just make shapeshifts merely override costumes, not overwrite them, so that you'll keep the costume when shifting back into humanoid form.
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  5. #1805
    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    Speaking of Flame Druids, according to some recent hotfixes, you were able to use/keep the Flame Druid costume in Flight Form before that >_< The item itself is of course quite a jab across druids' faces anyway (again)
    I don't know why they don't just make shapeshifts merely override costumes, not overwrite them, so that you'll keep the costume when shifting back into humanoid form.
    The staff use-effect is overridden, not overwritten, when you shift out of cat form. Shifting back into cat form will put you back with the fire cat visual. It persists through log-out, zone change, hearth, form changes... The only thing that seems to remove it is engaging in combat or unequipping the weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigslick View Post
    So I managed to pick up Fandral's Flamescythe tonight (yay!). Also 11th in WoL on Baleroc 25 = woohoo I beat Mihir on a fight - he must have been sleeping ;-). Interesting trick we discovered: if a druid stands close to you when you're in fire cat form (on-use effect) and pops a potion of illusion, they copy your form and can shift to flightform and.... FLYING FIRE CAT OMG!
    Gz on the staff Have you looked at the duration of your and my Baleroc kills? :P

    Edit: also wth.. your white attacks are 28% of your damage? o_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drathos View Post
    You can get the ring on day 1 of doing the dailies now.
    oke where? becase i defently missed it
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    After you go through the portal, there's a vendor standing next to Malfurion, he sells the ring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Gz on the staff Have you looked at the duration of your and my Baleroc kills? :P

    Edit: also wth.. your white attacks are 28% of your damage? o_O

    I did. Your raid's overall DPS was far, far greater than ours allowing for a kill in 3:48 vs our 5:46 -- but this also means you had the benefit of higher Time Warp uptime, 17.5% to my 11.5%. Of course, I potted for the fight as we're not as confident on the farmability yet as I suspect you are.

    But I think the log might be buggy -- it shows you we each berserked twice, but you had lower uptime there (8.4% to my 14.4%). And yeah, the difference in white damage does seem a bit out of order. Plus while I like to think I'm fairly skilled at feral, your gear and higher TW uptime make my catching you on DPS a little suspect.

    Damn I hate it when logic makes sense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    Edit: also wth.. your white attacks are 28% of your damage? o_O
    I also had this happend to me in Firelands, I believe it was on one of those big adds. I had pretty high DPS on that mob and our mage looked at recount and saw that my white damage was my top damage source. I wasn't really checking how hard my white hits were, so I don't know if it's just a log issue or some damage bug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigslick View Post

    I did. Your raid's overall DPS was far, far greater than ours allowing for a kill in 3:48 vs our 5:46 -- but this also means you had the benefit of higher Time Warp uptime, 17.5% to my 11.5%. Of course, I potted for the fight as we're not as confident on the farmability yet as I suspect you are.

    But I think the log might be buggy -- it shows you we each berserked twice, but you had lower uptime there (8.4% to my 14.4%). And yeah, the difference in white damage does seem a bit out of order. Plus while I like to think I'm fairly skilled at feral, your gear and higher TW uptime make my catching you on DPS a little suspect.

    Damn I hate it when logic makes sense...
    In fact it looks like you white-hit 814 times during 346 seconds, which is 2.35 attacks per second...
    Code:
    [21:27:08.324] Cab crits Baleroc *3840*
    [21:27:08.324] Cab crits Baleroc *3840*
    [21:27:09.103] Cab hits Baleroc 1978
    [21:27:09.104] Cab hits Baleroc 1978
    [21:27:09.881] Cab hits Baleroc 1999
    [21:27:09.882] Cab hits Baleroc 1999
    [21:27:10.639] Cab hits Baleroc 1754
    [21:27:10.639] Cab hits Baleroc 1754
    [21:27:11.382] Cab crits Baleroc *5481*
    [21:27:11.383] Cab crits Baleroc *5481*
    [21:27:12.162] Cab crits Baleroc *6075*
    [21:27:12.163] Cab crits Baleroc *6075*
    [21:27:12.921] Cab crits Baleroc *5976*
    [21:27:12.921] Cab crits Baleroc *5976*
    [21:27:13.672] Cab crits Baleroc *5933*
    [21:27:13.672] Cab crits Baleroc *5933*
    [21:27:14.456] Cab crits Baleroc *5994*
    [21:27:14.457] Cab crits Baleroc *5994*
    [21:27:15.194] Cab hits Baleroc 2028
    [21:27:15.243] Cab hits Baleroc 2028
    [21:27:17.014] Cab crits Baleroc *6120*
    [21:27:17.015] Cab crits Baleroc *6120*
    [21:27:17.802] Cab hits Baleroc 2482
    [21:27:17.803] Cab hits Baleroc 2482
    [21:27:18.565] Cab hits Baleroc 1966
    [21:27:18.566] Cab hits Baleroc 1966
    All white-hits got recorded twice for some reason


    Code:
    [21:28:40.066] Mihir crits Baleroc *4145*
    [21:28:40.823] Mihir crits Baleroc *5336*
    [21:28:42.038] Mihir crits Baleroc *5381*
    [21:28:42.640] Mihir hits Baleroc 2591
    [21:28:43.225] Mihir hits Baleroc 3285
    [21:28:43.818] Mihir hits Baleroc 3475
    [21:28:44.425] Mihir hits Baleroc 4614
    [21:28:45.011] Mihir crits Baleroc *9183*
    [21:28:45.642] Mihir crits Baleroc *9780*
    [21:28:46.223] Mihir crits Baleroc *9601*
    [21:28:46.930] Mihir hits Baleroc 3415
    [21:28:47.460] Mihir hits Baleroc 4447
    [21:28:48.091] Mihir hits Baleroc 3243
    [21:28:48.682] Mihir crits Baleroc *9854*

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    such thing can be unfortunately found in WoL. Either the combat log was broken or someone for some reason modified the files... I don't know if such ppl just want to be on top of the others no matter what

    for example top Shannox results:
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    [20:10:38.711] Vaik Shadow Bolt Shannox *30374*
    [20:10:38.711] Vaik Shadow Bolt Shannox *30374*
    ...
    [20:10:37.336] Rayleigh Earth Shield Nadine +4141
    [20:10:37.336] Rayleigh Earth Shield Nadine +4141
    [20:10:37.336] Mufftox Nourish Nadine +10230
    [20:10:37.336] Mufftox Nourish Nadine +10230
    [20:10:37.336] Nadine Death and Decay Shannox 1254
    [20:10:37.336] Nadine Death and Decay Shannox 1254
    [20:10:37.336] Xantius Scourge Strike Shannox 10010
    [20:10:37.339] Xantius Scourge Strike Shannox 10010
    [20:10:37.339] Mufftox Lifebloom Nadine +*4225*
    [20:10:37.339] Mufftox Lifebloom Nadine +*4225*
    ...
    Last edited by Ekthelion; 2011-07-21 at 01:18 PM.
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    There's a lot of bugged logs right now. Not sure if it's the combat log or WOL parsing incorrectly. We had everyone in our guild rank #1 on Shannox 25m normal on Tuesday and I did 38k dps....or so it said.

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    What I've been doing is accumulating those little rogue off-pieces and making them my bear gear, and keeping them ready just in case, depending on what tier gear I get first. I'm not really willing to get rid of my heroic tier 11 yet for those pieces (until it becomes an obvious increase). I'd say it's safe to say it really doesn't matter because of how equal the secondary stats are, and even when they aren't, they still are a pretty insignificant portion of your dps compared to pure agility upgrades. I mean, you're talking about ~50/100 THEORETICAL dps.

    Alrighty that's kinda how I felt too. I let a helm and shoulders get de'd and I think that was stupid. In fact both of our ferals did. I'm going to take what I can get and correct the pieces later if necessary as we progress.
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    I'm pretty sure it's a bug and not intentional, a bunch of my guild's wipe logs look like that as well (and I'm the one uploading them).

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    So the raw combat logs on your computer are showing the double log entries? I guess that's good to know it's not WOL screwing up if so.
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    It seems to be an issue affecting some combat logs (I'm number 1 ranked for Shannox 25 at the moment) where they are logging abilities twice. It's not a WoL/Skada/Recount issue, but an issue of the logs itself. I thought it was only affecting Shannox, because that's where I've seen the majority of these observations, but I guess not.

    Also, MIHIR. ANSWER MY QUESTION GAWSH

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    Sorry ;(

    Quote Originally Posted by Tygroen View Post
    Hey Mihir, was it you that said that the rep items could be upgraded? And if so, wouldn't that make Flamebinding Girdle (Haste/Hit) best in slot over Riplimb's Lost Collar (crit/exp)?
    They can't be upgraded atm, theyre not on the vendor and rightclicking the firestones doesnt work yet. So for now the upgraded riplimb collar is the best; when they fix the firestones in 4.2.x it will probably change to the upgraded rep one.

    Seeing the current extremely low droprate of firestones, id recommend to not waste them on a leather belt (especially since the sinestra belt is so close to the 391 belts), but instead use it on a weapon or trinket.
    Last edited by Mihir; 2011-07-21 at 10:20 PM.

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    Werdizzle. And yeah, I would tend to agree with that

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    Er, I was of course talking about Leyara's Locket, not the Flamescythe :P
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    If people only knew my horrible luck with staves, having to wait now 3 weeks without a new one dropping is discouraging.

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