1. #1921
    ... and they said feral rotations got EASIER with Cataclysm. Ha.

  2. #1922
    It is easier, mangle became 1 minute debuff, savage roar and rake timer increased. I sorta miss the old feral :[

  3. #1923
    Unheeded warning got a stealth nerf... sigh.

  4. #1924
    Quote Originally Posted by Sinfonia View Post
    Unheeded warning got a stealth nerf... sigh.
    What did they change and when?

    Edit: Found it: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...-Change-(nerf)

    The proc is now AP instead of weapon damage.

    So I guess Any trinket over ilvl 359 will be better than this one?
    Last edited by Zheryn; 2011-08-03 at 09:07 PM.

  5. #1925
    Confirmed. :-/ Five days ago, I've said that I am tired of UW and probably change it even for normal Hungerer when it drops...but this is too soon! Anyway, I have to do some quick math but I expect that even http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/69001/a will be better now.

  6. #1926
    Got the 391 Fandral's... At first i was like WOOOHOOO THE BEST DAY OF MA LIF!!!
    Now i'm bugged by this:
    1) Mew tells that haste is way better than other secondary stats (~1.6, others are ~1.3 and lower);
    2) I must keep my crit rating higher than haste or mastery for the ragnarod trinket to proc on crit;
    3) I CAN'T get my haste higher than crit or mastery;
    4) I have thousands of options how to reforge and my mind is going to blow up.

    Please help me


    upd
    And UW got nerfed... Aww that sucks. I have 2p t12 only, so it seems my best choice of what i have are 384 Rag trinket and H Prestor...
    Ugggh, so 1mil iterations + those 2 trinkets + 1608 mastery, 1347 haste, 1700 crit, 838 hit and 253 expertise. I'm going to sleep :/
    Last edited by calibro; 2011-08-03 at 10:12 PM.
    Feral dps :3
    Bring back ArP rating!

  7. #1927
    Quote Originally Posted by calibro View Post
    3) I CAN'T get my haste higher than crit or mastery;
    Actually, you can, but you would have to reforge some crit + mastery to hit + exp so they will both have lower raiting than haste.

  8. #1928
    Quote Originally Posted by calibro View Post
    2) I must keep my crit rating higher than haste or mastery for the ragnarod trinket to proc on crit;
    Wouldn't it be good if the trinket proc'd haste if that is the best stat? Or does it make us get too much haste during berserk+BL so you get energy capped?

  9. #1929
    How much of a gain am I looking at going from 372 Malevolence to 378 Ranseur's, using 4p T12.

  10. #1930
    So, why, exactly, you don't want haste proc? It is 2 more shreds during berserk from the proc only (and about 1.3 sec of berserk with 4T12, assuming continuous model). Also, more omen procs help a lot too.

    Upd: Ah, I forgot you don't use 4T12. Well, I still don't see how crit proc is so better then haste is much better than crit in Stat Point/dps normalization. I mean, we are not gcd capped, ooc have flat proc percentage...
    Last edited by Mithfin; 2011-08-04 at 06:04 AM.

  11. #1931
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    UW nerf confirmed:

    [22:37:53.394] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:37:53.626] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *34404*
    [22:37:53.989] Ekthelion gains Heedless Carnage from Ekthelion
    [22:37:55.484] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:37:55.734] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *35329*
    [22:37:56.668] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:37:56.902] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *36257*
    [22:37:59.883] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:00.183] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19090
    [22:38:00.942] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:01.385] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19922
    [22:38:01.935] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:02.268] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19581
    [22:38:02.970] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:03.423] Ekthelion Shred Shannox 19124
    [22:38:04.002] Ekthelion's Heedless Carnage fades from Ekthelion
    [22:38:11.226] Ekthelion casts Shred on Shannox
    [22:38:11.520] Ekthelion Shred Shannox *33995*

    /sad feral
    Da Vuhdo iz wid'ya mon!

  12. #1932
    Yeah seams like perfect time to grab Hungerer since i have Matrix already :P
    Sadly no 4t12 for now but that should be fixed next reset(stupid BH won't drop ma lewts)

  13. #1933
    I'm not getting these results when testing UW on US servers

    stats screen indicates a weapon damage increase and no AP gains

  14. #1934
    Quote Originally Posted by Nayto View Post
    I'm not getting these results when testing UW on US servers

    stats screen indicates a weapon damage increase and no AP gains

    Well tbh i was wondering last night during raid why i cant reapply rip on 2-3 sec till it expires(mid fight) now i know why /sad kitty. Thinking only should i get rep trink and replace UW tonight altho i would need shtload of reforges again

  15. #1935
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    maybe this is an Eu only nerf :P

    anyway, i wonder if essence of cyclone will be better then new UW then.. (both 359 versions)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeyIllidan View Post
    How much of a gain am I looking at going from 372 Malevolence to 378 Ranseur's, using 4p T12.
    Around 400-500 I'd say. And around 900-1000 going from 378 to 391.

  17. #1937
    Anyone else Rake do less damage since yestrday ?
    From being number 2-3 on my damage meter it dropped to 4 on 3 fights(alys/shannox/beth hc) . i didn't change anything about reforge . my mastery still top since i still have 2t11 pc and 2t12p . it's wierd even on dummy rake only dong like 16% of the damage down from 20-22% . only 1 thing changed i removed UW for the 378 rep trinkt .

  18. #1938
    I registred that i am already no more number one in dmg in fights like shannox but i think it's because the gear of the other DDs is better since the first oder 2nd ID and maybe they scale better with higher gear as feral druids do

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    I'm not sure if this has hit US servers or not, I still appear to be getting the proc as weapon damage and not attack power.

    EDIT: Didn't see the 5 other posts or so claiming this as well, haha, sorry for the repost, but still relevant. Odd, anyone done a bug report on the EU forums yet?

  20. #1940
    It would be quite hilarious if it was just a mistake on EU for UW nerf, the tears of pain from all those crying about it being op would be so entertaining

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