The Cat Guide - 4.3

**Calathiel** · 2012-02-12, 10:00 AM

Yeah, because taking down corruption before 3rd impale and parasite before it's explode isnt important? For us we had some strugles with those 2 on 4th platform and my usage was exactly on place. I really don't know why so much hostility? I'm just sharing my pov - you can agree or disagree, yet there's no reason to go above that. I've tried several other ways while we were learning, this one made best results so I've shared it. End of story.

**Mihir** · 2012-02-12, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by furtality

just got LFR vial. do i wanna switch out my Norm Starcatcher for it? using WoU also.

Yep. Any Vial > Starcatcher.

**Zheryn** · 2012-02-12, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Calathiel

Yeah, because taking down corruption before 3rd impale and parasite before it's explode isnt important? For us we had some strugles with those 2 on 4th platform and my usage was exactly on place. I really don't know why so much hostility? I'm just sharing my pov - you can agree or disagree, yet there's no reason to go above that. I've tried several other ways while we were learning, this one made best results so I've shared it. End of story.

Yeah, that's probably where most DPS is needed in P1, so optimally you'd want Berserk during the bloods. So, do you skip using it on third platform or do you just manage to get it ready? I suppose Corruption dies before Berserk runs off if you don't skip it on third platform?

**Nightelfsb** · 2012-02-12, 10:45 AM

Irowyn, while that is true, AOEing something to make that die faster aint all horrible either. After your 2nd kill or so its fun to get advises on how to max DPS. I think people who havent killed it before knows that popping CDs for AOEing isent something good.

**Buwwy** · 2012-02-12, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Mihir

Yep. Any Vial > Starcatcher.

Where does LFR WoU match up to LFR Vial now? or should I use both and drop Kiro?

**furtality** · 2012-02-12, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Buwwy

Where does LFR WoU match up to LFR Vial now? or should I use both and drop Kiro?

both are far superior to Sigil.

**Irowyn** · 2012-02-13, 07:36 AM

Ok, I'm sorry, my post was... pretty shit yes. But am I really the only one who has a problem with the statement "good for your meters"? :S

**Calathiel** · 2012-02-13, 09:17 AM

Ok, I'm sorry, my post was... pretty shit yes. But am I really the only one who has a problem with the statement "good for your meters"? :S

Well, after taking boss down some ppl usually like to show off a bit (or at least I like that ;p).
Also someone was asking if I managed to get it ready for every corruption. Yeah. As far as I remember berserk was up when corruptions were at 30% / 20% / 15% / 20% - or something close to that.

**Fiana** · 2012-02-13, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Calathiel

Well, after taking boss down some ppl usually like to show off a bit (or at least I like that ;p).
Also someone was asking if I managed to get it ready for every corruption. Yeah. As far as I remember berserk was up when corruptions were at 30% / 20% / 15% / 20% - or something close to that.

It depends on if you want to maximize your dps and if you lack dps to kill corruption.

Also it depends on your raid dps and on zone debuff because obviously all timings will screw up every 5% debuf that boss gets.

Currently we kill every platform in something like 2:40. So its impossible to use berserk on every platform in the same place.

I think its obvious that to maximize dps you have to aoe blood. So your berserk timings will look something like this

1 - blood
2 - catactlyzm
3 - skip
4 - blood
5 - 2-nd blood, usually synchronized with tentacles and big mobs to get even more targets. Thats where you use your pot usually.

Anyways, you will never outdps the guys who aoe blood nonstop during all platforms.

I hate current content because there is no boss with fair dps competition on it. There is _one_ - Ultraxion. But ferals get ~7% dps penalty on this boss, so I can't call it fair as well.

**Zstr** · 2012-02-14, 10:29 AM

What neck is better Cataclysmic Gladiator's Necklace of Prowess or Cameo of Terrible Memories,since I can't obitain ragnoros hc one, I have question which one is better to use? coz pvp ones have more agility+mastery, but resilence, and VP ones less agility+haste but also hit which I think will be overcaped with BiS set

**Shadowfury** · 2012-02-14, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Zstr

What neck is better Cataclysmic Gladiator's Necklace of Prowess or Cameo of Terrible Memories,since I can't obitain ragnoros hc one, I have question which one is better to use? coz pvp ones have more agility+mastery, but resilence, and VP ones less agility+haste but also hit which I think will be overcaped with BiS set

VP one,by far,you would just trade secondary stat for nothing basically. Also,if you fear that you will be over capped,you always can reforge hit,while resilience you cant

**Bigslick** · 2012-02-14, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Zstr

What neck is better Cataclysmic Gladiator's Necklace of Prowess or Cameo of Terrible Memories,since I can't obitain ragnoros hc one, I have question which one is better to use?

As Shadowfury said, the Cameo for kitty. PVP neck is better for bear though.

**Arctagon** · 2012-02-15, 07:33 PM

Dear diary,

Today Kiril dropped twice, which made me very anxious, considering it hasn't dropped in a month. I need rolled on both and held my fingers crossed. Eventually the results appeared. I lost both Kirils to two hunters. Again.

Ugh...

**Nathanyel** · 2012-02-15, 09:10 PM

/pat Arctagon

Gonna try my own weekly luck later today or tomorrow, we'll see...

**Arctagon** · 2012-02-15, 10:25 PM

Good luck! Let's hope you are luckier than me. I will keep my paws and tail and everything crossed.

**senkolols** · 2012-02-15, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by furtality

both are far superior to Sigil.

what about heroic matrix vs sigil ?

**furtality** · 2012-02-16, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by senkolols

what about heroic matrix vs sigil ?

HC Matrix(for me). Depends if you want an "on-use, flat haste" or "flat agility, proc"
Rough list of best to not so best.

HC Vial of Shadows
HC Wrath of Unchaining
N Vial of Shadows
N Wrath of Unchaining
LFR Vial of Shadows
LFR Wrath of Unchaining
HC Starcatcher Compass
N Starcatcher Compass
VP Kiroptyric Sigil
HC Matrix Restabilizer
HC The Hungerer
N Matrix Restabilizer
LFR Starcatcher Compass
Ancient Petrified Seed
N The Hungerer
N Arrow of Time

**Nightelfsb** · 2012-02-16, 10:30 AM

Honestly, the trinket is really good on atleast bosses like Yorsahj, Haagara's tombs if 25s (Cause of AOE). Other bosses like Warlord when stacks high, or madness AOE is also fine.

**furtality** · 2012-02-16, 01:51 PM

it is, but like with proc trinkets on-use have their flaws.

Originally Posted by Nightelfsb

Yor'sahj

only major'y effective on the "german" phase. even then you'd only get the full use of it on the 1st set having it fall off or having another set of blobs so the adds move away (i get to sit on the boss)

Originally Posted by Nightelfsb

Hagara's tombs

If RNG is against you and you end up constantly tombed, you're gonna sit on the trinket and not use its full effect, or you're going to pop it early for the +dmg buff and not have it up for tombs.

I think the only encounter where it truely shines is Spine. In all other scenarios Vial and Wrath of Unchaining are your best bets.

**celionaria** · 2012-02-16, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by Arctagon

Dear diary,

Today Kiril dropped twice, which made me very anxious, considering it hasn't dropped in a month. I need rolled on both and held my fingers crossed. Eventually the results appeared. I lost both Kirils to two hunters. Again.

Ugh...

I ran LFR tuesday and 2 Kirils dropped... first one went to a hunter, and there was a painful wait of about 3 mins until the other one went through. I thought I was gonna pass out, than I heard that ominous "thud" sound of something being dropped into my bag ^^

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