[TV] The Walking Dead (*Spoilers*)

[TheJekyll]

Can't wait for the final episode of this season. Showdown at the farm, it looks like.

[Pud'n]

There is only one person who can do a 360 and go back! But he ain't in walking dead.

OT: What an episode. The virus affecting everyone is a big twist. It will make people do some horrible things. I didn't want Shane to die. He was insane and that what's made him stand out. Everyone in the group is a "good guy". An anti-hero was a good addition. He did some strange things but he was right most of the time. Keeping Randall alive was a mistake. Randall was going to come back bite them in the ass, his "cute girls" story, the way he tried to talk Carl into letting him go, hurting himself to get out and shooting at strangers in a dying world! Shane dieing was a very clear cut thing, keeping him alive for long would have pissed many people off.

Can't wait for the next episode. They always showed that jungle was walkers free. But now there are like 10,000 running towards Rick/Carl. Glenn and Daryl are also in the woods and don't come across any walkers. Where did such a massive horde of walkers come from? Maybe shooting Dal the previous night caused them to move to the woods.

With so many walkers, how the fack will they get out. I think a lot of people will die. Especially Sophie's mom and that black dude. Looks to be a 40+ mins action packed episode everyone was crying about.

Many walkers tend to walk in large packs that travel around, such as the ones encountered by the group in the beginning of season 2. Perhaps it's not too far fetched too to say that Shane/Rick were just at the wrong place at the wrong time, when they had this ordeal near ones of these travelling packs?

[Waterisbest]

Many walkers tend to walk in large packs that travel around, such as the ones encountered by the group in the beginning of season 2. Perhaps it's not too far fetched too to say that Shane/Rick were just at the wrong place at the wrong time, when they had this ordeal near ones of these travelling packs?

Ye I guess they were at the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong incentives. But it was stupid in the first place to stay out at night this long in a fucking jungle!

I think what the CDC guy told Rick was that Lory was pregnant and Shane is the daddy. That's why Rick wanted to keep Shane alive.

[Shriekbat]

I don't think the deal with Shane was bad. It was good, and one way to tell the story. However, I was a fan of Shane and his actor and if I could alter the story, he would have gone away from the group some time during the season, being able to return some time in a future season as either an ally or an eventual bad guy. Would be a cool thing to do, just like with Merle (Though I doubt Merle would appear as an ally)
I did agree with many of Shane's decisions. The only problem with Shane was his instability and I actually thought it was slowly starting to work out after the episode where they were to leave blindfolded Randall. I guess in that scene where Lori in ep12 actually didn't show her despise to Shane his obsession with her got worse and he was confused and simply stopped caring. I think even if the thought of killing Rick had crossed his mind and in season 1 he somehow tried to get the feel how it would feel while aiming at Rick, he wasn't planning to do it and didn't want it (only subconsiously) except for in the very latest time.
Like many seem to believe, Shane was not a complete monster though. He did love Lori, Carl and showed empathy to Carol, seemed to like Andrea, even starting to loose his tension with Dale. He was jealous, broken, and needed to either get away from Lori for a while or well, what happened in the last episode was gonna be bound to happen.

Next episode will be filled with lots of action and while I thought the farm would be overrun much earlier in the season, at least it's finally gonna happen and it's gonna be pretty nice I think.

[glo]

Ye I guess they were at the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong incentives. But it was stupid in the first place to stay out at night this long in a fucking jungle!

I think what the CDC guy told Rick was that Lory was pregnant and Shane is the daddy. That's why Rick wanted to keep Shane alive.

I think the general consensus was that he told them that they were all infected.

[Fuzzzie]

I think what the CDC guy told Rick was that Lory was pregnant and Shane is the daddy. That's why Rick wanted to keep Shane alive.

How would he know that at all?

I think the general consensus was that he told them that they were all infected.

Pretty much what I've read as well.

Great episode though. I really can't to see the next one although I hope they have enough time to cram a big cliffhanger in. Season 1 ended on a "What's Next?". I'd like to see season 2 end on a huge reveal, wtf sort of thing. Going to miss looking forward to it. At least Game of Thrones is coming back.

[Waterisbest]

I think the general consensus was that he told them that they were all infected.

I donno man, I'm just firing shots in air.

But he knew they were all infected then why didn't Rick tell others? I'm sure telling a few others would be the right thing because if someone dies, they need to know he/she will come back as a walker. It's too big a problem to keep a secret. Imagine someone dies, they are buried, everyone is sleeping, the dead comeback and eat everyone. Sounds like a plan?

[Fuzzzie]

I donno man, I'm just firing shots in air.

But he knew they were all infected then why didn't Rick tell others? I'm sure telling a few others would be the right thing because if someone dies, they need to know he/she will come back as a walker. It's too big a problem to keep a secret. Imagine someone dies, they are buried, everyone is sleeping, the dead comeback and eat everyone. Sounds like a plan?

Telling everyone would also cause a lot of panic and despair.

[Grath]

Ye I guess they were at the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong incentives. But it was stupid in the first place to stay out at night this long in a fucking jungle!

I think what the CDC guy told Rick was that Lory was pregnant and Shane is the daddy. That's why Rick wanted to keep Shane alive.

I reckon the CDC guy just told rick that Lory was preggaz, not who the father was, blood tests wouldnt show that detail

I think the general consensus was that he told them that they were all infected.

Actually that makes more sence, cos the cdc guy wanted to kill them all but gave in to reason

[Zdrasti]

How would he know that at all?

He couldn't know who the father was without doing a follow up test. But he could determine that she was pregnant and perhaps guesstimate how far along she was.

Thus he might have said something like, "bee tee dubs, your wife is 2 months pregnant." Then depending on how much actual time has passed in the show, this might have led to unambiguous paternity.

[Fuzzzie]

He couldn't know who the father was without doing a follow up test. But he could determine that she was pregnant and perhaps guesstimate how far along she was.

Thus he might have said something like, "bee tee dubs, your wife is 2 months pregnant." Then depending on how much actual time has passed in the show, this might have led to unambiguous paternity.

I just don't think the writers would use that mystery to explain something that the audience already knows. There's no payoff at all anymore.

[glo]

How would he know that at all?



Pretty much what I've read as well.

Great episode though. I really can't to see the next one although I hope they have enough time to cram a big cliffhanger in. Season 1 ended on a "What's Next?". I'd like to see season 2 end on a huge reveal, wtf sort of thing. Going to miss looking forward to it. At least Game of Thrones is coming back.

OMG, you're awesome. I thought tonight's episode -was- the season finale, leaving the whole wall of zombies to be dealt with in the next season's premiere. I was kinda shocked thinking it was the finale, and how much filler was in the episode, but at the end when Shane died I figured it was enough.

Now I have something to look forward to next week. :P

[blade5o]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09i3V...59FUAAAAAAACAA
Stumbled across this video, I assume its legit he posted a vid a week about spoiling last nights episode and it was accurate.

[Zdrasti]

I just don't think the writers would use that mystery to explain something that the audience already knows. There's no payoff at all anymore.

That's true, but at the same time, we also know that simply dying now turns you into a zombie. There wasn't really much he could have said in that time frame other than "you're infected." Given what we know now, that kind of reveal wouldn't tell us much new information either.

[Fuzzzie]

OMG, you're awesome. I thought tonight's episode -was- the season finale, leaving the whole wall of zombies to be dealt with in the next season's premiere. I was kinda shocked thinking it was the finale, and how much filler was in the episode, but at the end when Shane died I figured it was enough.

Now I have something to look forward to next week. :P

Yeah, they need a good zombie rampage to close out this season. I'm glad they at least quiet all the people who QQ'd that there wasn't enough action in the first part of the season. I think they did a great job this time around.

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That's true, but at the same time, we also know that simply dying now turns you into a zombie. There wasn't really much he could have said in that time frame other than "you're infected." Given what we know now, that kind of reveal wouldn't tell us much new information either.

Yeah, it's been hinted at, but that characters are still learning this for themselves. It hasn't been extensively discussed like Lori's pregnancy.

[Purlina]

I donno man, I'm just firing shots in air.

But he knew they were all infected then why didn't Rick tell others? I'm sure telling a few others would be the right thing because if someone dies, they need to know he/she will come back as a walker. It's too big a problem to keep a secret. Imagine someone dies, they are buried, everyone is sleeping, the dead comeback and eat everyone. Sounds like a plan?

As long as you bury them it should be okay since they probably can't dig themselves out.

The only thing I'm confused about is how they turned so quickly. Why didn't the two guys in the bar start turning?

Is it just a random period of time before they change or are only some people infected?

[Tyratops]

Probably because (I think) he shot them in the head, without re-watching that episode I can't be certain he did though.

[Waaldo]

I think the general consensus was that he told them that they were all infected.

The only problem I see with this is that after Rick stabbed Shane, rick just walked away towards Carol. If Rick knew that Shane was going to come back as a zombie why would he not stab/shoot Shane in the head?
I still think that the CDC guy just said "Lorie is pregnant" and everyone is just looking to far into it.

[Zdrasti]

As long as you bury them it should be okay since they probably can't dig themselves out.

The only thing I'm confused about is how they turned so quickly. Why didn't the two guys in the bar turn start turning?

Is it just a random period of time before they change or are only some people infected?

Didn't the doctor say turning was as fast as 10 minutes to as slow as several hours? Shane seems to have been one of the faster variety and the prisoner kid took a few hours.

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The only problem I see with this is that after Rick stabbed Shane, rick just walked away towards Carol. If Rick knew that Shane was going to come back as a zombie why would he not stab/shoot Shane in the head?
I still think that the CDC guy just said "Lorie is pregnant" and everyone is just looking to far into it.

I've been trying to figure out what makes the most sense regarding them coming back without being bitten. What's happening is that people are effectively getting infected without being bitten/scratched but they're not turning until they die. To me this means that this version of the disease is easier to transmit but also easier to fight off. One simple option is that this is an airborne strain.

Now what happens when you come in contact with that strain. Are you infected, but able to fight off the infection? This could mean that people are passive carriers and would somewhat coincide with Shane kinda losing his mind the last episode -- perhaps he was slowly losing to the infection? Personally I think he was just losing his mind without the aid of a zombie infection.

Another option is that you're able to fight it off entirely, but once you die you're unable to fight it off anymore. So you remain dead until walkers come by and the airborne infection hits you and turns you. Personally I think this is more likely, because they found a couple of instances where people were not bit but had turned. In each of those cases there were a fair number of these types of walkers and they were all largely unscathed and the area they were hanging out in was also undamaged. How can such a scenario come to be? That is a little bit of a mystery in its own right, but I think what happened is people died for all manner of reasons (fear, starvation, suicide, etc) and were abandoned by the fleeing living. Eventually the airborne version came about and a walker in the area infected corpses from afar. They turned but had no nearby anything to attract them, so they just hung out and no real damage is caused -- until eventually living humans (our little band of heroes) comes by.

[LocNess]

While I agree you would think if that is what Jenner told Rick, Rick should have known about Shane coming back, however he was extremely emotionally upset obviously (and that was shown fairly well) and when his son came at him with a gun seemingly pointed at him, I doubt zombie-Shane was the top thing on his mind.

Also for confirmation at the bar, the first guy was a head shot, the second guy got shot in the chest and then the head.