1. #1241
    Quote Originally Posted by Krowz View Post
    It was a good episode and overall I'm liking this season. Season 2 really started to drag on about halfway through and it was becoming just so utterly predictable, but it seems like the writing has picked up in my opinion. However I felt Lori's death was just, silly.

    She gave her speech about how the baby needs to survive because it will give hope to the group or whatever and that she wants to die for it, but I can't help but think this is just stupid. Who in their right mind during a zombie apocalypse would choose to die giving birth to a baby that may not even be alive, could be/most likely is infected, and in reality will be nothing but a hindrance to the group. The baby will cry uncontrollably potentially attracting zombies, it will require formula (in a time where finding regular food is already near impossible), and will need to be carried and cared for constantly while the group is moving from refuge to refuge. I felt like this was poor writing, I thought they were taking the story down the "gritty path" where everything isn't sugarcoated anymore, its about survival. The proper survival choice would have been to keep Lori alive and have Herschel attempt to deliver the baby but expecting the reality that it may not make it. That was my problem with the scene.

    Furthermore, I'm not convinced Carl put her down. We saw no confirmation and we ALWAYS see confirmation (because isn't that one of the reasons people tune in, for the gruesome effects?). I think we'll see Lori reanimated in the future and they'll use it as a "Carl is still just a kid and even through all the death and killing he's endured he still didn't have the heart to pull the trigger".


    Those are my thoughts, anyone agree or disagree? /discuss
    I'd really like to see Lori reanimated so she can get killed again. Totally agree with you on Lori being an absolute idiot about the baby. She was just an annoying plot fix that was used to attach shitty unecessary drama, not to mention an abhorrently written/played/developed character. I wish they would have killed her in the show as fast as Shane was killed in the comics

  2. #1242
    Quote Originally Posted by Krowz View Post
    Those are my thoughts, anyone agree or disagree? /discuss
    Well.... after she made the decision to keep it, she, and everyone with a bit of common sense watching kind of knew the cesarean she needed to birth it may well kill her. Even in the best case scenario with herschel about or carol the odds were not great imo. Between infection, bleeding out, complications, a bad incision, a million things could have caused death for her, not to mention the baby can be brain-damaged, injured, or killed during the operation. This is an operation that can and does go wrong in hospitals sometimes...

    So, seeing as she was committed to the pregnancy, she had 2 choices. Let the baby panic / be unable to be birthed and probably die inside her, which could also take her down anyway (and i think very few women would have the mental "fortitude" to let their baby die inside them to save themselves - but even then she still would have had to have the operation to remove the dead child, with most of the risks and complications that could lead to her death, but no baby to show for it.

    Imo she was pretty screwed any way she looked at it - she had no way of knowing how long help would be arriving - if at all, and she would not have had the strength to walk, nor would the girl with her have been able to carry her to help most likely.

  3. #1243
    Quote Originally Posted by Krowz View Post
    Those are my thoughts, anyone agree or disagree? /discuss
    Well she had the following options.

    A: Die from C-section, B: Die by natural child birth or C: Let the baby die and get eaten from the inside out (Remember everyone is infected)

  4. #1244
    i dont think a baby could eat anyone due to not having teeth.. might give her a good kicking though lol
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  5. #1245
    Quote Originally Posted by Insanoflex View Post
    i dont think a baby could eat anyone due to not having teeth.. might give her a good kicking though lol
    That is true but we don't know yet what the virus/infection actually does to a baby just yet, who knows. It could possibly tear her apart as we saw with Dale (Or kick her to death as you suggested :P ). Not too sure how a rotting corpse can possess such strength but no complaints, it's fantasy after all. One thing for sure having a zombie inside you can't be a good thing.

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    we need some different spoiler tags i know some are for the most recent episode but some are for insight from reading the comics im afraid to click on the spoilers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralook View Post
    I'd really like to see Lori reanimated so she can get killed again. Totally agree with you on Lori being an absolute idiot about the baby. She was just an annoying plot fix that was used to attach shitty unecessary drama, not to mention an abhorrently written/played/developed character. I wish they would have killed her in the show as fast as Shane was killed in the comics
    Unless something's changed from season 2, fucking Carol needs to get killed off. With Lori dead now, Carol's the only dead weight left in the group now that Carl's actually being something besides a psychotic little twit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Maelle View Post
    Well.... after she made the decision to keep it, she, and everyone with a bit of common sense watching kind of knew the cesarean she needed to birth it may well kill her. Even in the best case scenario with herschel about or carol the odds were not great imo. Between infection, bleeding out, complications, a bad incision, a million things could have caused death for her, not to mention the baby can be brain-damaged, injured, or killed during the operation. This is an operation that can and does go wrong in hospitals sometimes...

    So, seeing as she was committed to the pregnancy, she had 2 choices. Let the baby panic / be unable to be birthed and probably die inside her, which could also take her down anyway (and i think very few women would have the mental "fortitude" to let their baby die inside them to save themselves - but even then she still would have had to have the operation to remove the dead child, with most of the risks and complications that could lead to her death, but no baby to show for it.

    Imo she was pretty screwed any way she looked at it - she had no way of knowing how long help would be arriving - if at all, and she would not have had the strength to walk, nor would the girl with her have been able to carry her to help most likely.
    All of this could've been dealt with if Rick was smart enough to for a wife with some hips, know what I'm sayin?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PizzaSHARK View Post
    Unless something's changed from season 2, fucking Carol needs to get killed off. With Lori dead now, Carol's the only dead weight left in the group now that Carl's actually being something besides a psychotic little twit.
    Maybe with her being on her own now for a little bit she will grow some balls and realize what she has to do.
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  9. #1249
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerdozia View Post
    Oh god.. I have been wanting Lori to die for so long. But now i just feel sad
    No! There is only joy and triumph at that moment when she croaked! I only hope that Carl just shot her in the shoulder or something so I can see her come back as a walker only to be killed again. Im so happy she is dead. Every word she said made me want to wretch, including her last speech. BLECH!

  10. #1250
    Stop putting spoiler tags on things that have already happened. If it happened in the last episode then it's not a spoiler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuse View Post
    Stop putting spoiler tags on things that have already happened. If it happened in the last episode then it's not a spoiler.
    If it's already out, everyone has obviously already seen it. That doesn't make 1 bit of sense. But I suppose clicking once on a black bar is super tough and strains you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EyelessCrow View Post
    If it's already out, everyone has obviously already seen it. That doesn't make 1 bit of sense. But I suppose clicking once on a black bar is super tough and strains you.
    HO SHIT! you can click on the bars!!!! I have been highlighting them for ages!!

    Forum fail....

    This season is keeping me very entertained so far. I am just worrying with Lori dieing the Rick is going to lose his resolve and the show is going to get stale like it did during the last season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smegdawg View Post
    HO SHIT! you can click on the bars!!!! I have been highlighting them for ages!!

    Forum fail....

    This season is keeping me very entertained so far. I am just worrying with Lori dieing the Rick is going to lose his resolve and the show is going to get stale like it did during the last season.
    I doubt it. He has his son and baby to protect. He doesn't have the option to lose his resolve.

  14. #1254
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    I doubt it. He has his son and baby to protect. He doesn't have the option to lose his resolve.
    Even if he were to lose resolve it woudn't last too long I imagine they would lose some fans by having a suicidal/depressed Rick I would be interested in seeing some flashbacks from Rick to learn more about the two before the outbreak, nothing too long just short and sweet.

  15. #1255
    Quote Originally Posted by EyelessCrow View Post
    If it's already out, everyone has obviously already seen it. That doesn't make 1 bit of sense. But I suppose clicking once on a black bar is super tough and strains you.
    Perhaps he's like me and don't want spoilers from the comics but have seen the current episode before coming to the *spoiler* marked thread, people putting spoiler tags around non comic spoilers kinda makes discussions messy.
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  16. #1256
    Quote Originally Posted by EyelessCrow View Post
    But I suppose clicking once on a black bar is super tough and strains you.
    No, we don't want to read spoilers from the comics, so won't click any spoiler tag. We're watching the series, so spoilers about episodes that have screened don't need spoiler tags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyriok View Post
    Even if he were to lose resolve it woudn't last too long I imagine they would lose some fans by having a suicidal/depressed Rick I would be interested in seeing some flashbacks from Rick to learn more about the two before the outbreak, nothing too long just short and sweet.
    From what i recall they touched on that in the first episode. They had a shaky marriage. Lori was telling another parent at Carls school about it when Shane pulled up to tell Lori that Rick had been shot. That's the only flashback i can think of.

  18. #1258
    i definitely see the producers of the show make an entire season of the 8 months or w/e it was they didnt show leading up to season 3. id love to see how carl became a little badass and got his parents to stop trying to keep an eye on him and keep him away from danger.

  19. #1259
    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzzie View Post
    From what i recall they touched on that in the first episode. They had a shaky marriage. Lori was telling another parent at Carls school about it when Shane pulled up to tell Lori that Rick had been shot. That's the only flashback i can think of.
    I recall these aswell but besides that there really isn't anything. It's unlikely to happen at this time, I just hope that all my questions are asked before the series comes to a stop, mainly the cause of the outbreak. I would be VERY intersted in seeing some scenes of the outbreak beginning from the original infected/walker.

    Also Fuzz! I finally ordered The compdeium #1 + #2 to add to my collection :P

  20. #1260
    Nothing too exciting this week at the prison, just dealing with the fallout from last week's death-fest. I'm still not sold that Carol is dead though since nobody found her, she could just as easily be hiding but I feel like she should have popped up by now if she was alive.

    The gladiator arena in Woodbury reminds me of some MAD MAX craziness. Bet you anything Michonne isn't going far...

    My biggest question right now is when will these two main stories connect?! We know they will at some point!

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