for all people who whine abouth cata beta raids being easy

[jitzul]

Normal mode raids are currently too easy (with few exceptions). You'll likely be seeing substantial buffs across the board in the next beta patch.
source
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=27387364216&pageNo=1&sid=2000#2

boosh
sorry if this has already been posted.

[Raur0s]

Deep inside I was hoping for a "Beta test is Beta" thread, I am disappoint...

Anyways, these are good news, but Sinestra's "attunement" seems a bit hard (note: I'm not in the beta, I don't know how hard Cho'gall's HM is)

[Deleted]

Well, good to see they are listening to feedback.

Considering most people have a ping of 350+ on Beta servers, have constant disconnects and are playing with new players and yet are still 2 shotting some bosses it is safe to say that a buff is warranted, especially in 10 man.

Then again, some encounters are already reasonably challenging. But as said, the high-ping and inexperience of some groups really does have a major impact on encounter-difficulty perception.

[Swizzle]

I do like how they lay out the plan to be a complete mix of TBC and WotLK, with the sexy lady dragon lady as a bonus. Still worried, as are the posters in that thread apparently, about stat inflation from having sinestra drop a half-tier worth of gear improvements over the rest of heroic t11 content.

[Corgrash]

I think they made the bosses intentionaly easier than they planned them to actually be because they need to test the Boss mechanics on raids.. not give them such a challenge that half the encounter doesnt get tested. Once they know that the abilities are working as intended, that is when the numbers start getting fiddled with and things become hard.

[Vook]

People are complaining that the raids are too easy? I've heard no such thing...

[jitzul]

People are complaining that the raids are too easy? I've heard no such thing...

have you missed ALL of wotlk?

[Kickbuttmario]

have you missed ALL of wotlk?

I think he is referring to Cataclysm.

On Topic: I think the OP has got it all wrong. I believe raids in Cataclysm are challenging in their current state for normal mode.

[Swizzle]

I think he is referring to Cataclysm.

On Topic: I think the OP has got it all wrong. I believe raids in Cataclysm are challenging in their current state for normal mode.

From what I've seen, some could use a bit of tweaking in terms of a slight damage output increase, but nothing major to be overhauled.

[talrob]

The difficulty is irrelevant. As long as it is physically possible to kill them, guilds will have had a full days practice on every boss or at least already have 'how to' videos to watch before cata even launches. Not to mention they are feeding the fat kids (metaphor, nomnom content need now, ill whine about nothing to do later) all the content including end bosses.

[Deleted]

I like it, i hope they'll make more fun raids, which require fishing or a puzzle to unlock a door, not mindless-trash-wack-a-mole-ing but some puzzle and maybe blacksmith a key or w/e

[Reyzzz]

From what I've seen, some could use a bit of tweaking in terms of a slight damage output increase, but nothing major to be overhauled.

They are supposed to be easy considering the fact
a) that they are content that blizzard wants everyone too see
b) they are first tier content

[Lyvefire]

They are supposed to be easy considering the fact
a) that they are content that blizzard wants everyone too see
b) they are first tier content

Disagree entirely, first tier =/= easy.

Thats a wotlk philosophy, anyone who raided kara at its gear level knows just how hard intro raids can be.

I have no problem with people wanting to see all the content, they can wait their turn though. 4.0's raids will be far easier with the gear that comes in 4.1. If you can't pass the content when its difficult you should wait a patch, seems pretty simple too me.

[Swizzle]

They are supposed to be easy considering the fact
a) that they are content that blizzard wants everyone too see
b) they are first tier content

None of the encounters are "easy" in the sense you'll be able to fully pug them till later tiers, it's just that some bosses feel weak and need a bit of tuning.

[Vudu]

They are supposed to be easy considering the fact
a) that they are content that blizzard wants everyone too see
b) they are first tier content

It's been pretty clear that Blizzard's changing that philosophy in cata (thank god).

[Osmeric]

It's been pretty clear that Blizzard's changing that philosophy in cata (thank god).

The interesting thing to watch will be if they stick with it when the live server customer reaction occurs. Raid participation collapsed in the transition from Naxx to Ulduar, which caused them to make ToC so much easier. If the 5 man heroics and entry level raids in Cataclysm are as hard as they are indicating, they could be facing a similar, or even stronger, reaction.

[Deleted]

Well they better buff it... People pug it with insane latency and still do like 2 pulls max...

[Tuvok]

I am filled with hope. I could cry.