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    Quote Originally Posted by Vetali View Post
    Yeah, but have they had a consistent coaching staff while Rivers has been QB? I don't know that, or does it really sway my opinion. He threw away a shut out performance at the half against Denver. He plays against a 1 team division right now honestly. Chiefs might do better than first round draft level this year, but still. No excuse.


    Patriots still on top. Miami getting better. Possibly better than .500. Jets still a 3 ring circus with Rex Ryan, and the Bills probably on the upswing but not near Miami.
    Yeah Norv Turner was there longer than he should have been. He will always be a better O-coordinator then a head coach. To be fair they went 4-2 in their division only losing to Denver twice. I tend to give QB's more rope when they have to carry their offenses because their rushing attack finished like 30th.

    I agree that the Patriots are King of their division until proven otherwise. Until the Jets get rid of Mr.Buttfumble they don't have a chance. Miami is trending up and are worth watching this year. Bills have some more work to get done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kunah View Post
    I believe in Belichick. He seems to be able to always put a good team on the field. Some good receivers will emerge from all this.

    I think we will have a week to week Rex Ryan firing watch this season. They start slow, then he's out mid season.
    Belichick + Brady will always be a winning combo IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeyenut88 View Post
    Yeah Norv Turner was there longer than he should have been. He will always be a better O-coordinator then a head coach. To be fair they went 4-2 in their division only losing to Denver twice. I tend to give QB's more rope when they have to carry their offenses because their rushing attack finished like 30th.

    I agree that the Patriots are King of their division until proven otherwise. Until the Jets get rid of Mr.Buttfumble they don't have a chance. Miami is trending up and are worth watching this year. Bills have some more work to get done.
    I give QBs a lot of rope as well, but I don't really see anything striking about him.

    Like I believe in Tannehill, Romo, Cutler even if hes going to be thrown into a read option offense this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeyenut88 View Post
    Yeah Norv Turner was there longer than he should have been. He will always be a better O-coordinator then a head coach. To be fair they went 4-2 in their division only losing to Denver twice. I tend to give QB's more rope when they have to carry their offenses because their rushing attack finished like 30th.

    I agree that the Patriots are King of their division until proven otherwise. Until the Jets get rid of Mr.Buttfumble they don't have a chance. Miami is trending up and are worth watching this year. Bills have some more work to get done.
    Thx. I wonder how Tebow is going to shake out. If he is not willing to catch the ball and help out receiving in this time of need,, then he might be out.
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    Yeah should be fun to watch the Tebow thing. Seen somewhere earlier that Gronk's rehab is moving along nicely and the Pats are upbeat about it. Between Gronk and Jake Ballard they should be fine, if healthy of course.

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    More trouble for the Patriots, Alfonzo Dennard arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence. This offseason get any worse for this team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeyenut88 View Post
    This offseason get any worse for this team?
    still plenty time for Amendola to get hurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    still plenty time for Amendola to get hurt
    Hey if that happens maybe they will give T.O a call and bring back Chad Ochocinco to complete the offseason circus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draynay View Post
    still plenty time for Amendola to get hurt
    I'm beginning to think that's what it will take for people to realise the Patriots are really vulnerable right now. Players allready sense it, with that Ellerby statement this week, but fans seem to be lagging behind.

    I'm not saying we'll be terrible this year, but it will take real effort to win the division and make the playoffs, and that's in arguably one of the weakest divisions in football. As things stand now I'll be happy if we manage to hold off the Dolphins and make the playoffs in some way, but I'm not expecting us to do more then that.

    Hell, to be honest I'll be happy if we show some progress during the season and manage to get the offense some experience to build on for next season, hoping that we can see one last trick out of Brady before he retires.

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    The Dennard arrest is especially funny. He was sentenced to serve 30 days in jail at the conclusion of the upcoming season for punching a police officer in the face outside of a bar. His lawyer was trying to get that sentence revoked on the condition he not break his probation and he also had Bill Belichick write a personal letter of character to the judge.

    ..And then he goes and gets a DUI, completely embarrassing his coach. Wouldn't be the least surprised if he is cut loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckeyenut88 View Post
    Yeah should be fun to watch the Tebow thing. Seen somewhere earlier that Gronk's rehab is moving along nicely and the Pats are upbeat about it. Between Gronk and Jake Ballard they should be fine, if healthy of course.

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    More trouble for the Patriots, Alfonzo Dennard arrested for suspicion of driving under the influence. This offseason get any worse for this team?
    They are just snake bit this off season. At least it's not a receiver.

    Don't understand these players mindset. If I was lucky enough to play in the NFL I would be walking the straight and narrow. No nonsense. Come in early and go home late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stommped View Post
    The Dennard arrest is especially funny. He was sentenced to serve 30 days in jail at the conclusion of the upcoming season for punching a police officer in the face outside of a bar. His lawyer was trying to get that sentence revoked on the condition he not break his probation and he also had Bill Belichick write a personal letter of character to the judge.

    ..And then he goes and gets a DUI, completely embarrassing his coach. Wouldn't be the least surprised if he is cut loose.
    ohhh yeah hes fucked.

    About the Tim Tebow stuff, like I said when it happened.. don't overthink it. I think his signing was purely for the playbook.

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    Well at least Hernandez has 2 people believing in him. https://twitter.com/JazzyNice5/statu...504130/photo/1

    No offence to these guys college ties, but how stupid do you have to be to support Hernandez, with the current evidence. Bet their clubs love them too for this attention.

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    This has to be the worst offseason in a long time for the Patriots.

    Aaron Hernandez murder
    Gronkowski Injury
    Losing Welker and most other receiving core
    Dennard DUI
    Signing Tebow

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    Ryan Clady on the Broncos got extended for 5 years, with 33 million of the 52 million guaranteed. Yowza. The guy is a great blocker though, and this shows how valuable blindside blockers are in the NFL today.
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    And the first Pouncey apology is in, knew that wouldn't be long. I still think it's pretty bad they apparently think he's innocent, or at least innocent enough to be freed. With how things stand he's at the very least heavily involved in covering up for who actually commited the murder, not sure how even school bonds let you look past that glaring fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jibjabb View Post
    This has to be the worst offseason in a long time for the Patriots.

    Aaron Hernandez murder
    Gronkowski Injury
    Losing Welker and most other receiving core
    Dennard DUI
    Signing Tebow
    Yep. Looks dismal. But in spite of it all they probably will still win the division. I am thinking there will be a couple of no-name receivers that will step up and take advantage of this opportunity.

    Living down south now. But hope to go see them when they visit the Panthers. My big football roadtrip this year! yay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendulous View Post
    “I don’t talk to anybody in a San Francisco 49ers shirt.” He didn't "basically say it", he exactly said it.

    And again, not even the same conference. It's incredibly stupid.
    “I don’t talk to anybody in a San Francisco 49ers shirt,” Harbaugh told Trotter. “How could you wear that out here? . . . Seriously, man. How could you wear that out here to a Chargers facility?”

    It wasn't that the reporter from a San Diego paper was wearing enemy gear, it was that he was wearing it at the team's facility. I'm sure if the interview was on more neutral grounds, Harbaugh would have joked about the gear, but would still have given an interview.

    What you do in your personal time is one thing, but what you do during the season or at your team facilities is another. It's also what got Alex Smith in trouble with the league last year because of wearing a SF Giants hat during press conferences when the Giants were making a run at the World Series Championship. He was promoting a 'rival' sports league during 'work' hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kunah View Post
    Yep. Looks dismal. But in spite of it all they probably will still win the division. I am thinking there will be a couple of no-name receivers that will step up and take advantage of this opportunity.

    Living down south now. But hope to go see them when they visit the Panthers. My big football roadtrip this year! yay
    Hey man the Jets are going to be strong. They are looking to integrate Geno Smith as a change of pace option QB like they did for Tebow. Smith was a great runner at WVU. He had like 40 yards in his career. Pretty good stuff. "He's black therefore he must be a good running QB"-Jets coaching staff.

    It really says something about the state of the Dolphins and Jets, and to a slightly lesser extent the Bills who might not be completely awful, when the Patriots can let their entire WR corps leave, lose their 2nd best player to chronic arm injuries for god knows how long, lose another top 5 guy to freaking MURDER charges, and rotate in an ever changing backfield, and STILL be heavy favorites to win the division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by conscript View Post
    Hey man the Jets are going to be strong. They are looking to integrate Geno Smith as a change of pace option QB like they did for Tebow. Smith was a great runner at WVU. He had like 40 yards in his career. Pretty good stuff. "He's black therefore he must be a good running QB"-Jets coaching staff.

    It really says something about the state of the Dolphins and Jets, and to a slightly lesser extent the Bills who might not be completely awful, when the Patriots can let their entire WR corps leave, lose their 2nd best player to chronic arm injuries for god knows how long, lose another top 5 guy to freaking MURDER charges, and rotate in an ever changing backfield, and STILL be heavy favorites to win the division.
    I'm more scared of the Dolphins then the Bills to be honest, Dolphins at least have something at QB. Same reason I don't trust the Jets this year, even though they might not be as bad as people make them out to be. Thing is though, Dolphins don't have much of an offensive line, mostly nothing at LT, so they are pretty hobbled too. With the obvious problems of all the teams in the AFC East I'm not banking on any of them to do much this season.

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    Dolphins > Bills > Jets.

    Don't worry though, Kellen Winslow wants to catch 100 passes this year while in a wheel chair.

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