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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatheyll View Post
    Same. I'm in love with him.
    I'm sure Yukino and Yui won't let you have him!
    I know you don't mean it like that please don't hurt me ;_;
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    So what was everyone's opinion of anohana? ended up waiting till it finished to watch it.

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    Haha, oh man Valvrave.
    Oh man.
    Oh man
    Oh man
    Oh. Man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    Haha, oh man Valvrave.
    Oh man.
    Oh man
    Oh man
    Oh. Man.
    Likin' da rape? :>
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    Valvrave suprised me.
    I like how i can't really feel rite saying it's a complex anime.. yet, it's not very, typical either?
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    decided to watch yuyushiki on top of the other ones i'm watching.
    wasn't a bad choice, i like he show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Likin' da rape? :>
    I was wondering how he was doing it with his pants still on though... And how they suddenly dissapeared after the deed was done.
    Also, I liked the pairing so, uh... I guess? :P

    Quote Originally Posted by moogogaipan View Post
    Valvrave suprised me.
    I like how i can't really feel rite saying it's a complex anime.. yet, it's not very, typical either?
    Well it has human-vampire people in mecha that are fighting space-nazi's. Oh and it has a rape scene
    It's trying quite hard to be hipster or something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    I'm sure Yukino and Yui won't let you have him!
    I know you don't mean it like that please don't hurt me ;_;
    I dunno about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tealgod View Post
    So what was everyone's opinion of anohana? ended up waiting till it finished to watch it.
    AnoHana? That aired in 2011.

    I loved it though, up there with Clannad ~AS~ on my favorite drama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zatheyll View Post
    AnoHana? That aired in 2011.

    I loved it though, up there with Clannad ~AS~ on my favorite drama.
    I think he means Aku no Hana.
    You know, rotoscope anime and stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    I was wondering how he was doing it with his pants still on though... And how they suddenly dissapeared after the deed was done.
    Also, I liked the pairing so, uh... I guess? :P
    My assumption of what happened: he did not actually rape her, just roughed her up and then lost consciousness. She saw the opportunity to blackmail him, arranged the scene to leave no doubt as to what happened - removing his pants and whatever she had left on herself in the process - and then is going to play the "u raepd meh" card to own advantage, plummeting him into self-hatred in the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    My assumption of what happened: he did not actually rape her, just roughed her up and then lost consciousness. She saw the opportunity to blackmail him, arranged the scene to leave no doubt as to what happened - removing his pants and whatever she had left on herself in the process - and then is going to play the "u raepd meh" card to own advantage, plummeting him into self-hatred in the process.
    Dude the Valvrave itself was going HHHHHHHHHHHHH and we should ALL know what H means in japanese internet slang...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    Dude the Valvrave itself was going HHHHHHHHHHHHH and we should ALL know what H means in japanese internet slang...
    It is not reserved for sex itself but for any "lewd" act. Even if he did not get anything done stripping and mounting her IS ecchi. xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    I think he means Aku no Hana.
    You know, rotoscope anime and stuff.
    Nah I'm watching aku as its going on, but I watched ep 1 of anohana way when it first started and couldn't get into it so put it out of my memory till I was out of stuff to watch the past few days >_>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    It is not reserved for sex itself but for any "lewd" act. Even if he did not get anything done stripping and mounting her IS ecchi. xD
    True but i'm just saying man...It seems pretty evident what happened....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    My assumption of what happened: he did not actually rape her, just roughed her up and then lost consciousness. She saw the opportunity to blackmail him, arranged the scene to leave no doubt as to what happened - removing his pants and whatever she had left on herself in the process - and then is going to play the "u raepd meh" card to own advantage, plummeting him into self-hatred in the process.
    Sounds like something she would do... still unprobable though :P
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    Date a Live 11 - Loved this episode. Even if it had no action, I thought it was absolutely hilarious. Plus that piano version of the OP again (probably one of my favourite pieces this season)

    Just finished Psycho-Pass.

    Overall, it was pretty good. I don't think it was as great as it could be though. I thought the first episode was absolutely amazing, but that quality (imo) didn't stay throughout. The villain really wasn't that interesting. His reasoning for fighting was hard to sympathize with. I mean, obviously he was doing the right thing (his goal, not his methods... obviously), but the whole "solitude" babble just seemed dumb, and I don't think I liked him at all. The twist where the villain isn't affected by the dominator was excellent, as was the Sibyl system twist. The father-son plotline was cool as well. It's just that the first episode was phenomenal, and I think if it focused more on the actual judging and the morality behind it, it would have been better. Not the "do we need the system or not?" message that we got.

    Nonetheless, I hope there is a second season.
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    Railgun - More glorious fighting! You have no idea how pleased I am that the OP was just JC Staff being JC Staff and wasn't incorporated into the show. Everything so far has pretty much copied the manga 1:1 except for the first episode, half of episode 7, and a few sparse and meaningless scenes. Seeing Touma at the very end was awesome and it'll be nice to see him back into the Railgun story since this is the official point pretty much where Railgun and Index merge. The end of chapter 30 intersects with volume 3 of the Index Light Novel. Railgun itself is now up to chapter 30 in the manga.

    (manga spoilers) Touma time next episode! I haven't read past chapter 31 in my re-reading of the series so I'm not entirely sure if this is where the Sisters arc ends. I might have to search for the scene in Index that'll happen next episode and see if it's a 1:1 copy paste at certain parts.

    Every episode I watch it's making me want to read the LNs more and more to see what'll happen with Misaka and the rest of Railgun's and Index's cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Likin' da rape? :>
    Maybe she had a rape tragic backstory? I mean, the way she reacted was... so broken. A bit sad.
    I don't think of it as regular "rape" she is mostly upset that the one doing that was the "cursed" haruko and not the real one. She knows that shoko is the one on his mind, and that the only way she can ever be this close to him is by him being driven mad by his nano-curse thing. She likes him, but she didn't want it to be like this.

    She is probably in love with him, or wanted to get close to him. Really sad lovestory.


    L-Elf is going to fall in love with shoko isn't he?
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    Date A Live: *fanfare* We have a Winner! http://i.imgur.com/aysaFFn.jpg
    Nice Beach episode. Kotori is getting more and more adorable. Also, that guy on the ship, whatshisfaceagain, is hilarious XD Next week shit is gonna hit the fan. I hope for S2 =(

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    Shinsekai Yori finished.

    Overall I'd definitely say it was better than average; I'd estimate around an 8/10 after having just finished it. Being the biologist that I am, I appreciate that they did some research and modeled things well. The second I saw Squealer for the first time I recognized him as being based off a naked mole rat, with the presence/appearance of the queen clinching it. Also they bothered to do little things like draw ragworms correctly. The only thing I didn't get is why Kimoumaru (sp?) looked more like a canine than the rest of his race.

    As for the plot, I'd pre-guessed a few things like the "Fiend" being Maria/Momoru's kid and the queerats being the remnants of the hunter-gatherers but that didn't really detract from the enjoyment. The strength of the show wasn't in big twists, which is something I really appreciate. I'm a bit "twisted out" of late, as trying to do a total reinterpretation at the end of a series seems to be far too popular and if anything has become a substitute for solid character and plot development and resolution. I was happy the series delivered on that end. It was also a refreshing change of pace for the protagonists to age and not wrap everything up at age 14. The number of teenage leads in series gets pretty tiresome, and I liked how Saki's oldest 30+ voice was the narrator looking back on things.

    What follows below is technical but relevant if anybody's interested.

    There are two areas of the brain which handle moral judgments. One is the insula, an area located laterally under the outer cortex, and the other is the temporal-parietal junction, which is a bit forward and above where your ears are. The insula is more closely tied to emotional systems while the TP junction is more of an accountant. This distribution of function to two separate subsystems can sometimes result in conflicting outputs, leading to moral quandaries.

    An example will help demonstrate. Imagine that there is a train that is out of control and will kill five people if it continues on the track it is on. You have the power to change tracks and cause it to only hit one person on an alternate route. Looked at in one way, this is the perfectly right calculus - you're sacrificing one person to save five (TP junction). In another, you're taking an action that will kill somebody (insula). You can tease these apart with even more scenarios. What if the default were to hit one and you could divert to kill five? Now, suddenly you aren't "doing anything" and your insula is happy and now agrees with your TP junction and you feel confident that the correct course of action is to not change the track (even though the situation is equivalent to the first). Your insula also delivers a more extreme response based on physical proximity: if pushing that one person onto the track saves five it strikes people as far more "wrong" than simply flipping a switch.

    I know that was a fairly extensive lead up, but it essentially explains why we find these sorts of situations morally problematic. The presence of one Fiend is catastrophic, as was demonstrated at the end of the series. So while the Education Committee comes across as total monsters at first their moral calculus does work out when it comes to sacrificing a few to save many. Also as I mentioned above, personal involvement is big and the series capitalizes on this with the death reflex. People can do things that will kill others, it just requires a step or two in between.

    With all this I'm not pretending like I have an answer. Our current societal solution is the concept that people have inalienable "rights." It's has overall worked well as it's developed these last few centuries, and is the basis by which most watchers will judge the actions of the future society in the series. The series doesn't go this far, as the Education Committee makes several significant errors, but if they were a bit more sophisticated with their methods you could see such a society arguing that "rights" only make sense when you're either ignorant or fearful of abuse. Would it still be morally reprehensible if they could identify proto-Fiends and eliminate them before they actually did anything Minority Report style?

    Anyway, it grows late and I hope that somebody finds the above discussion enlightening.

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