Bilgewater Goblins and the Gilnean Worgens influence

[balgus82]

Worgen ARE native to Azeroth. They were originally Nelf Druids that followed Goldrinn.

[Milanor]

No. Goblins breed like rats and generally have a very strong influence on everything that they encounter.

The Gilneans, however, are just coming out of their isolation and learning and adapting and surviving and getting used to the big world out there.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

In my opinion this happens because with the Horde...the New Playable Races introduced (Blood Elvs in TBC, Goblins in Cata) they take those races directly from the lore. With The Alliance races...they shift and Retcon the races to try and make them fit.

[zlygork]

In my opinion this happens because with the Horde...the New Playable Races introduced (Blood Elvs in TBC, Goblins in Cata) they take those races directly from the lore. With The Alliance races...they shift and Retcon the races to try and make them fit.

someone's got to re-read his old lore or atleast replay wc3

tell me that belves lore was already like that.
they just randomly betrayed their leader and the illidari to join the horde wich had nothing to do with them other than the undead whose leader was once a high elf, and not a highelf queen or anynthing...riiiiiight

[Cyclonejoker]

Worgen ARE native to Azeroth. They were originally Nelf Druids that followed Goldrinn.

Do you have a lot to learn about lore... They are indeed NOT native to Azeroth. As they were first known to be discovered by Ur, and then summoned to Azeroth by none other than Arugal to combat the Scourge, and along that time span, Velinde Starsong summoned Worgen with the Scythe of Elune. Prior to all this, the Druid sect that followed the path of Goldrinn began to slowly experience changes of behavior from transforming into their Bestial Worgen forms, and were eventually cursed by it.

tl;dr
ORINIGAL Worgen are not native to Azeroth.
The Worgen CURSE IS native to Azeroth.


(FYI.. If you go to WoWpedia, and look up Worgen, the FIRST array of a sentence on the Introduction to them states that they're not Native to Azeroth.)

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

someone's got to re-read his old lore or atleast replay wc3

tell me that belves lore was already like that.
they just randomly betrayed their leader and the illidari to join the horde wich had nothing to do with them other than the undead whose leader was once a high elf, and not a highelf queen or anynthing...riiiiiight

Maybe you should look up your lore...when the Blood Elves joined up with the horde they still were not aware of Kael'thas going all evil...it wasn't until the Sunwell Patch that they ditched him completely. The Sentinel Guards walking around in SMC before 2.4 had a line something to the effect of "Stay strong...Kael'Thas will lead us to Victory". There's actually a scene that was introduced in 2.4 where Lady Liadrin speaks to A'Dal and renouces all featly to House Sunstrider and pledges the Blood Knights to A'Dals service.

And Speaking of WC3...i remember the Draenei from that game and funny thing...at the time...none of them considered themselves to be "Broken" and i never did see and of the "Pure" Draenei...

[Deleted]

ORINIGAL Worgen are not native to Azeroth.
The Worgen CURSE IS native to Azeroth.


(FYI.. If you go to WoWpedia, and look up Worgen, the FIRST array of a sentence on the Introduction to them states that they're not Native to Azeroth.)

And if you read after the FIRST array of a sentence on the Introduction:

These sources, however, have been proven incorrect. The worgen in fact derive from an ancient druidic sect known as the Druids of the Scythe who worshiped the wolf Ancient Goldrinn. The chosen shapeshift form of these druids was the worgen form, but these druids lost themselves to the form's savage nature and descended into feral behaviour.

[Ken_Silver]

I think that they do. If not for any reason then the following one: Draenei failed at blending in on Azeroth. Lor'themar maybe a "Who?", but the Draenei are a "What?" It's really bad and even Blizzard admitted this at Blizzcon. Right now, the Worgen are starting to look like Draenei 2.0.

But this issue is not because Blizzard wants them to be few and far, but that it makes sense for them to be few and far. Like the Draenei: they kind of come out of the blue and join the Alliance thanks to the Night Elves. Lore-wise, it would have been baloney if the Draenei swarmed Azeroth in thousands. Same with the Worgen...

Or so you thought. Blizzard (intentionally or not) gave Worgen a "fail-safe" that allows them to become numerous "overnight": the Worgen "curse" can spread by drinking the blood of a Worgen. In the desperate times Post-Shattering, people (of all races) may be desperate enough to hunt down and drink Worgen blood in an attempt to gain power and stop being a victim of the times. It's up to Blizzard to push the story that way though.

Even with that in mind, we have to remember: Goblins and Blood Elves already exist(ed) on Azeroth proper to them becoming playable races. We know where the Blood Elves were, they were not just coming out. And we interacted with Goblins, due to the Steamwheele cartel. It becomes much easier to use races that are already out, available and intractable, than races that were only savage mobs to kill or come out of nowhere.

So, yes. I want to see more Worgen out there, but I can see why they aren't currently. Maybe in a future patch, the Worgen will arise and do much more, like turning Gilneas City into a smaller city like Theramore or something, since the city itself is no longer a battleground.

[Hikidoki]

tl;dr
ORINIGAL Worgen are not native to Azeroth.
The Worgen CURSE IS native to Azeroth.

blizzard changed the story...well bent it... splinter group of nelf druids were the first worgen and they couldnt control it, they went mental

[Cyclonejoker]

And if you read after the FIRST array of a sentence on the Introduction:

Retcon....

[Ken_Silver]

Do you have a lot to learn about lore... They are indeed NOT native to Azeroth. As they were first known to be discovered by Ur, and then summoned to Azeroth by none other than Arugal to combat the Scourge, and along that time span, Velinde Starsong summoned Worgen with the Scythe of Elune. Prior to all this, the Druid sect that followed the path of Goldrinn began to slowly experience changes of behavior from transforming into their Bestial Worgen forms, and were eventually cursed by it.

tl;dr
ORINIGAL Worgen are not native to Azeroth.
The Worgen CURSE IS native to Azeroth.


(FYI.. If you go to WoWpedia, and look up Worgen, the FIRST array of a sentence on the Introduction to them states that they're not Native to Azeroth.)

Umm, the lore about them not being native to Azeroth is wrong. Not your failt, but apparently, Ur was dead wrong. He thought that the Emerald Dream was another world. The Wowpedia site has up the old lore so that you can see how it has progressed over time. Like how they kept the old lore of the Draenei up there.

The Original Worgen were Druids of the Scythe that had gone feral and were locked up in the Emerald Dream. Ur (a mage) saw them in what he thought was another world and then wrote his book. Not good to have a Mage write about Druidic affairs.

The Gilnean starting Zone explains everything.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

blizzard changed the story...well bent it... splinter group of nelf druids were the first worgen and they couldnt control it, they went mental

You see..that's blizzard Retcon in action.

[kabshiel]

This has to be the most tired subject ever.