Feral Legendary, Sunwell.

[Gnarwhale001]

I was talking with my guildies earlier today regarding classes receiving legendaries.
We were discussing how casters got fairly boned in comparison to other legendaries with Atiesh.
It then crossed my mind that Feral Druids haven't received a VIABLE (So yeah, no Sulfuras) Legendary at all.
The way I see it, Sunwell should have dropped a legendary staff, not a bow.
This would have supplied both Hunters and Ferals instead of just leaving Ferals in the dark, every other legendary strongly benefits 2+ classes whereas Thoridal only strongly benefits one class.
I'm obviously not completely dialed in with why this wasn't the case, or why this would have been a problem.
Legendary Physical DPS Staff
Requirement: Druid/Hunter

Why would this have been a worse idea than what was implemented?
Thought and ideas please.

[Cocobutters]

because only two classes could use it.

[Nest]

because only two classes could use it.

I see no problem there.

[artemisthemp]

because only two classes could use it.

Warglavies = Warrior and Rogue

[Azamelto]

Enh shammies have no viable Legendary either :P

But I suppose a bow was inevitable anyway and it was able to be used by 3(?) classes.

If truth be told, i dont think we'll be seeing a Physical DPS staff for awhile (Btw, do you think a polearm might me more beneficial?)

[Gnarwhale001]

iirc, Druids could not wield polearms before WotLK.

because only two classes could use it

I don't see why Thoridal going from 1 viable class to 2 viable classes would be a bad thing.
I don't see why 2 viable classes for a legendary is a bad thing either, since it's been done before.

Actually, enhancement shamans DID get Sulfuras. But they're in need of an update.

[masasume]

Simple fact it would have benefited feral tanks, causing the other 2 (at the time) tanking specs to explode in masses of QQ

[Sneakysnado@Gmail.com]

Warglavies = Warrior and Rogue

What he means to say is, No legendary stat sticks gtfo.

[Azamelto]

iirc, Druids could not wield polearms before WotLK.

Also, Thoridal was only VIABLE for one class.

That is true, Enh Shaman has no viable legendary either, didn't even think of that, thanks!

Sorry you may have misunderstood me, but i meant for the (possible) future Physical DPS weapon, would a polearm be more beneficial than a staff?

And yeah, although Thoridal was only VIABLE for one class, it could theoretically used by others

[Gnarwhale001]

Simple fact it would have benefited feral tanks, causing the other 2 (at the time) tanking specs to explode in masses of QQ

They could have added a proc off an ability that feral tanks do not have.
Or some other mechanic that would not benefit tanks, leading Feral DPS/Hunters to obtain the staff and not Feral tanks.
I don't see the problem here.

---------- Post added 2010-11-19 at 12:44 PM ----------

A polearm could be more beneficial if you wanted to cram more viable classes onto the legendary.
But having TOO MANY classes viable for a legendary could also be a problem.
Polearm vs Staff for the future really depends on who you want it to be viable for, there could always be a Benediction / Anathema function for Str/Agi.

Or a class requirement. Either or.

[Deleted]

Elves are renown for their mighty staves.


Oh wait, they're renown for BOWS

[Gnarwhale001]

Elves are renown for their mighty staves.


Oh wait, they're renown for BOWS

Through actions, I think Blizzard has shown that they're more concerned with balance over who's good with what shaped stick.
Or lore.

Inc illogical reasoning: Sunwell drops three staves, two bows.
Clearly elves are renown for staves.

[Azamelto]

Elves are renown for their mighty staves.


Oh wait, they're renown for BOWS

Elves (Blood Elves I believe you mean) are renown for several different things....magic addiction mostly. But really, they've had many renown weapons that weren't bows (Quel'Delar much)? True, that they didnt make that sword, but it was gifted to them so they must have at least some competence in using such items. (Felo'melorn(Sp?) comes to mind also )

[Dryade]

Enh shammies have no viable Legendary either :P

But I suppose a bow was inevitable anyway and it was able to be used by 3(?) classes.

If truth be told, i dont think we'll be seeing a Physical DPS staff for awhile (Btw, do you think a polearm might me more beneficial?)

Shamans had Sulfuras, feral druids have had NOTHING.

Also Thoridal was usable by two classes, Hunters and Rogues.

[Uoyredrum]

Thori'dal was also BiS for warriors and rogues for those saying it was only good for hunters.

[Azamelto]

They could have added a proc off an ability that feral tanks do not have.
Or some other mechanic that would not benefit tanks, leading Feral DPS/Hunters to obtain the staff and not Feral tanks.
I don't see the problem here.

---------- Post added 2010-11-19 at 12:44 PM ----------

A polearm could be more beneficial if you wanted to cram more viable classes onto the legendary.
But having TOO MANY classes viable for a legendary could also be a problem.
Polearm vs Staff for the future really depends on who you want it to be viable for, there could always be a Benediction / Anathema function for Str/Agi.

Or a class requirement. Either or.

Just as a point, Val'anyr was used by 4 classes

[Deleted]

Imo, Blizzard need to implement a Legendary weapon viable for Ferals in Cataclysm, especially with the use of Hyjal and Night Elfs.

[Azamelto]

Shamans had Sulfuras, feral druids have had NOTHING.

Also Thoridal was usable by two classes, Hunters and Rogues.

Thori'dal was also BiS for warriors and rogues for those saying it was only good for hunters.

*Ahem*
Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros
Binds when picked up
Unique
Two-Hand Mace
223 - 372 Damage Speed 3.70
(80.4 damage per second)
(358 feral attack power)
+12 Strength
+12 Stamina
+30 Fire Resistance
Durability 145 / 145
Requires Level 60
Item Level 80
Chance on hit: Hurls a fiery ball that causes 273 to 333 Fire damage and an additional 75 damage over 10 sec.
Equip: Deals 5 Fire damage to anyone who strikes you with a melee attack.

That is viable for Ench...in what capacity?

[mark-out]

Thoridal All the way.

[SoulForge]

Enh shammies have no viable Legendary either :P

But I suppose a bow was inevitable anyway and it was able to be used by 3(?) classes.

If truth be told, i dont think we'll be seeing a Physical DPS staff for awhile (Btw, do you think a polearm might me more beneficial?)

They don't have one now. Enhance shammies used to use 2-handed weapons for their DPS. They could have used the hand of sulfarus.