good thread thank you
good thread thank you
I'm inclined to believe that Insightful Earthsiege Diamond is still the best meta gem for regen, unless the proc rate is lower at 85 or the +33 int and 2% maximum mana of the Ember Shadowspirit Diamond somehow beats it. Although, this may be the case with Disc priests, I'm not sure.
Last edited by Sny; 2010-12-01 at 04:43 PM.
I believe it's more so the fact that the 33 intellect AND 2% mana is better for your longevity than the mana restoration proc. That could be upwards of an additional 6-7k additional mana pool, and that's honestly just throwing a random ballpark number out there. If I sat and did the math, it could even come out to 9-10k differential. Not to mention the added spellpower boost.
In regards to the mastery answer, thank you. I had not actually thought of it in that fashion. Then mastery over crit makes some sense. Still, that being said, I am very disappointed at the fact that crit is so incredibly undervalued now with the addition of mastery. I would hope that, in the future, Blizzard makes some changes to at least give us the option to make one or the other equally effective in their own respects. That would fit much more with their intent to give us as players more options in how we choose to perform our roles.
Posting the archaeology items for completion sake, can just copy my post in to help take care of some of the formatting if you want.
These are all I could find that are relevant to raiding.
Staff of Ammunae - Tol'vir Archaeology
Staff of Sorcerer-Thane Tharissan - Dwarf Archaeology
Ring of the Boy Emperor - Tol'vir Archaeology
Tyrande's Favorite Doll - Night Elf Archaeology
Nice list, but what about Solace trinkets? I have both versions - thoughts on them?
Both Solaces are better from a pure regen standpoint than entry level 85 trinkets. So if you're very concerned about regen, then you should continue to use dual Solace until you can replace them with some T11 trinkets. Typically lower level items which aren't easily accessible aren't included with this type of list, which is why they were left off I would assume. But yes, Heroic Solace is +144 Int / +288 Spirit. It completely destroys the 346 and under regen trinkets.
Replenishment: ~24 mp5
Hymn of Hope: ~1.5 mp5
Shadowfiend: (Without channeling Hymn of Hope and 2/2 Veiled Shadows) ~7.5 mp5
Shadowfiend: (Same as above but channeling Hymn of Hope) ~8.4 mp5
So, I'm guessing it's worth somewhere between 30 - 40 mp5 which is still lower than the Insightful Earthsiege Diamond by about half on average, I'm guessing for Disc though the value will be about equal and the new meta will come out ahead fairly soon, probably for Holy some time in the future as well, but right now I think I may stick with the old meta as Holy unless I hear otherwise from people who really know what they're talking about.
Last edited by Sny; 2010-12-01 at 07:49 PM.
Is it just me, or is Tyrande's Favorite Doll essentially the best trinket in the game? A WotLK level mana pot on a 1 min cd that won't share with your actual mana pot cd, AND it can even do a little bit of damage, AND it's 321 int.
I know one of the things I'm prioritizing when I'm raid ready and not raiding at any particular time.
Oh god, it's BoA which force me to focus on archaeology really hard
Wouldn't mind if this thread was Sticky'd.
What stat weights do you use to calculate the BiS items?
Thanks for the list. Appreciated the help. It will be very handy for me when cata hits