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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    it's not specifically anitfreeze, but it's the same active ingredient iirc, ethylene glycol, it's used to help facilitate the heat transfer
    Ethylene Glycol, which is the major component in antifreeze has worse heat transfer than straight water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    Ethylene Glycol, which is the major component in antifreeze has worse heat transfer than straight water.
    adding a small amount to water increases the heat transfer ability of the water, but in return lowers the overall heat capacity, requiring a bit more flow, which is why you use a very small amount in a pc, <.05%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    adding a small amount to water increases the heat transfer ability of the water, but in return lowers the overall heat capacity, requiring a bit more flow, which is why you use a very small amount in a pc, <.05%
    Just curious, WHY 4 GTX590s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doirdyn View Post
    Just curious, WHY 4 GTX590s?
    2... 4 GPU's

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doirdyn View Post
    Just curious, WHY 4 GTX590s?
    2 GTX-590's, they are dual gpu cards, 2x2=quad sli

    and because i can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    2 GTX-590's, they are dual gpu cards, 2x2=quad sli

    and because i can
    Oh, alright. But what could possibly be necessary to get them? Aren't they like $800 cards?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asmekiel View Post
    €70 Are you sure :|
    I'm considering dumping a considerable amount of money into a proper PC, so. :U

    If I intend to go full-on water-cooling, graphic card, chipset and all, what would I be needing?

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    tubing, cpu-block, gpu-block, chipset-block, rad, pump, fans... That's all I know :P

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    i know this, and i was surprised to see mercury on that list, but ethylene glycol works like mercury, but you can add it to water, it reduces the overall heat capacity of the water, but increase the thermal conductivity rate, it makes the water soak up heat faster, this has an optimal point, the small amount used in computers will do nothing to prevent freezing, but it will help your loop pick up heat from the source, and ex-spell it to the radiator faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    I'm considering dumping a considerable amount of money into a proper PC, so. :U

    If I intend to go full-on water-cooling, graphic card, chipset and all, what would I be needing?
    cpu block
    gpu block (requires a reference gpu most of the time)
    MB block (requires someone to make one for your MB)
    1-2 high power pumps
    1-1.5 meters of tubing
    enough radiator area to ex-spell all the heat (probably 360x120 and a 120x120 and bare min for a dynamic system, double that for a static system)
    fittings, you probably want compression
    reservoir (optional, but highly recomended)
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    Dynamic system? Static system? *now fallen off the track* D:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Dynamic system? Static system? *now fallen off the track* D:
    Sorry, can't help you with that :P I'll stay off the watercooling for now, good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Dynamic system? Static system? *now fallen off the track* D:
    a dynamic system cools best under full load, and worst at idle, your idle temp is 50 but never exceeds 65 under full load

    a static system keeps the same temperature all teh time, your idle is 30 and your full load is 30

    dynamic is cheaper, and uses some sort of fan control or pwm fans to boost fan speed when the temp increases

    static is alot more expensive, requires alot more radiators (larger ones too) but uses static rpm fans (these are the very quiet systems)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    i know this, and i was surprised to see mercury on that list, but ethylene glycol works like mercury, but you can add it to water, it reduces the overall heat capacity of the water, but increase the thermal conductivity rate, it makes the water soak up heat faster, this has an optimal point, the small amount used in computers will do nothing to prevent freezing, but it will help your loop pick up heat from the source, and ex-spell it to the radiator faster
    It's because the extra conductivity by the water isn't really needed, the difference is rather miniscule. Plus even small amounts of ethylene glycol will gunk up the newer blocks. Like the EK CPU blocks with the fine pins at the base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ispano View Post
    It's because the extra conductivity by the water isn't really needed, the difference is rather miniscule. Plus even small amounts of ethylene glycol will gunk up the newer blocks. Like the EK CPU blocks with the fine pins at the base.
    interesting, EK is using a non-glycol enhanced fluid, koolance is using a 27% propylene glycol fluid, they both use micro fins in their block design
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    Propylene Glycol is different, it doesn't seem to gunk things up. At least from the research i've done. But the difference is so miniscule in temps, why pay extra when all you need is distilled?
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    Can anyone recommend the Noctua NH-C14? I am looking to get a better cooler for my i7 2600k in my Armor 30 microATX case.

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    did a new Atto test of my Crucial M4 after i updated to firmware 00009 and the new firmware has given the M4 a realy nice boost in read speed and allso a little boost in write speed



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    Quote Originally Posted by pansertjald View Post
    did a new Atto test of my Crucial M4 after i updated to firmware 00009 and the new firmware has given the M4 a realy nice boost in read speed and allso a little boost in write speed



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