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    Just added a Das Keyboard Professional S Slient to my setup. Finally i can join the "Mechanical Keyboard Club"!

    And i have to say, it types sooooo well. When i unpacked it and typed the first words, it felt a little bit awkward, due to me being used to the very heavy Cherry G83 key stroke. But now after some minutes and a couple of more lines, i can't imagine ever going back to a rubber dome (at least for typing). I probably would have preferred the Blue Switches from the non-silent version, but noise is a factor, so i have to settle for the Browns (even they are borderline from the noise).

    I really have to force myself to stop typing this post, it's that much fun!

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    Gahhhhhh.

    I can't wait to get mine. >_<

    Asera requires I get a DAS Ultimate S. lol
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    The more I look at the Ivy Bridge rumors and new AMD and NVIDIA cards the more I wanna redo my build entirely, but I just got done doing a lot of upgrades around Christmas - if only I knew back then what I know now (it's crazy how much I've learned in 2 months).

    Anyone ever have any luck selling custom rigs on Amazon? =P I'm getting my tax return back in the next few days, and coupling that with any money I could make by selling my current build (either as a whole or in pieces) would get me a pretty sweet PC when Ivy Bridge releases I reckon.

    Also, on the mechanical keyboard front: Are they really as amazing as people say they are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthynerd View Post
    Also, on the mechanical keyboard front: Are they really as amazing as people say they are?
    It's nothing life changing, but it is a more enjoyable experience IMHO. The main thing I like about the red switches in my K60 are the fact that they trigger long before they reach the bottom of their travel, meaning if I want to spam a button in a game I don't have to constantly mash the key all the way down but just need to lightly tap it repeatedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthynerd View Post
    The more I look at the Ivy Bridge rumors and new AMD and NVIDIA cards the more I wanna redo my build entirely, but I just got done doing a lot of upgrades around Christmas - if only I knew back then what I know now (it's crazy how much I've learned in 2 months).
    This is always the case. But you are also unlikely to actually need the additional benefit in CPU power, and GeForce cards aren't due to June as it looks.
    New, better stuff is always around the corner, and within six months, what you have may be old as Netburst.

    Upgrade when you need to, to what you need to. NexTopia (I heard the term used somewhere) is bad enough of a feeling as it is, to let it control you. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthynerd View Post
    Also, on the mechanical keyboard front: Are they really as amazing as people say they are?
    For typing: Hell yes, without a doubt.
    With a decent mechanical keyboard, every key has exactly the same responsiveness (same actuation force, same actuation way, etc.). This is important if you want to type fast, because then you don't have to press the button till the bottom. This requires less force and less finger movement, and with practice it produces less "dead" strokes (when a key doesn't register because you put not enough force on it). This also has the side effect, that typing is less "painful" when you do not have to bottom out every key to make sure it registers (bottoming out puts certain force against your finger tips).
    Also with a mechanical, the keys go down easily even when you press them at a bit of an angle. While this is partly a general "quality" issue with cheap rubber dome keyboards, it is also based on the design of the key switches. Mechanical switches produce less friction.
    A third point, at least with some of the switch types, is the tactility. You feel when the key has registered without needing to press until it does not move further. With some switch types you even hear it (Cherry MX Blue, IBM Buckling Spring).

    For gaming: depends.
    While gaming, you bottom out the key most of the time anyway, so the "tactile" component of a mechanical is not of advantage. But to have a generally very high quality keyboard is never a bad thing. (Nearly all mechanicals are way above the build quality of rubber domes)


    P.S.
    Since about 12 years, until today, i used a high-quality rubber dome keyboard (ugly but very sturdy Cherry G83). I was satisfied most of the time with the keystroke and general quality and never even thought of a mechanical keyboard until recently. But now that i type this on my new toy, i couldn't go back to rubber dome for the life of it. You have to feel the difference to really appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Upgrade when you need to, to what you need to. NexTopia (I heard the term used somewhere) is bad enough of a feeling as it is, to let it control you. :P
    Fiiiiiiine, I suppose you're right. >=(

    And regarding the mechanical keyboard: I think I'll hold off for now, maybe I'll include one of those in my next build (unless my current keyboard dies before then, I've been using it for quite some time).

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    You sure that cooler will fit in that case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by googz View Post
    You sure that cooler will fit in that case?
    It barely fits. I greatly underestimated its size when I ordered it, and I nearly sh*t myself when I opened the box and saw how massive it really was. I had to remove the side case fan to get it in there, but I still have four other powerful case, so it worked out in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikaru View Post
    It barely fits. I greatly underestimated its size when I ordered it, and I nearly sh*t myself when I opened the box and saw how massive it really was. I had to remove the side case fan to get it in there, but I still have four other powerful case fans to fill in.
    Hey sounds like a good excuse for a "necessary upgrade" to a 200 dollar case. Here let me help you shop.

    Who doesn't love upgrading? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GG you got me View Post
    Hey sounds like a good excuse for a "necessary upgrade" to a 200 dollar case. Here let me help you shop.

    Who doesn't love upgrading? lol
    After dropping almost $200 for a new mobo, my wife would kill me if I spent another $200 right away for a case :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthynerd View Post
    Also, on the mechanical keyboard front: Are they really as amazing as people say they are?
    Yes and No. I have owned cherry red black and blue mechanical keyboards and cant stand using a non mechanical keyboard. Mechanical keyboards are just so much more fluent and feel amazing compared to a non mechanical keyboard. With blues you know exactly where the key actuates and on reds and blacks the linear feel (as long as your not bottoming out) feels like your typing on clouds. The lifespan of mechanical keyboards is also insanely longer than membrane keyboards. On the other hand I do not believe that they at all improve your gaming. The speed at which you can move your fingers limits your gaming much more than the problems of a membrane keyboard (Unless your pressing an insane amount of keys per second with your left hand, which usually doesn't happen in most games.) So overall I recommend buying a mechanical keyboard if you want it purely for the feel and reliability but not if you want it to improve your game.

    Lastly although the Razer Black Widow is the cheapest option I would recommend against it. I had that board for a year and 5 days then the circuity somehow fried. One day it just wouldn't turn on and since the warranty was only 1 year I took it apart to check out the internals. Also the key caps are made of a cheaper material than most mechanical boards. Spend the extra money and go for another mechanical board that WILL last you forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpiece View Post
    Yes and No. I have owned cherry red black and blue mechanical keyboards and cant stand using a non mechanical keyboard. Mechanical keyboards are just so much more fluent and feel amazing compared to a non mechanical keyboard. With blues you know exactly where the key actuates and on reds and blacks the linear feel (as long as your not bottoming out) feels like your typing on clouds. The lifespan of mechanical keyboards is also insanely longer than membrane keyboards. On the other hand I do not believe that they at all improve your gaming. The speed at which you can move your fingers limits your gaming much more than the problems of a membrane keyboard (Unless your pressing an insane amount of keys per second with your left hand, which usually doesn't happen in most games.) So overall I recommend buying a mechanical keyboard if you want it purely for the feel and reliability but not if you want it to improve your game.

    Lastly although the Razer Black Widow is the cheapest option I would recommend against it. I had that board for a year and 5 days then the circuity somehow fried. One day it just wouldn't turn on and since the warranty was only 1 year I took it apart to check out the internals. Also the key caps are made of a cheaper material than most mechanical boards. Spend the extra money and go for another mechanical board that WILL last you forever.
    i would say that the feel is the whole purpose of buying a mechanical, i dont think that things like Nkey roll-over and extra macro keys really apply to gaming, there are 105 keys on a standard keyboard, and even with a low 200hz polling rate, you wont be able to press a key fast enough to make a difference, whether or not it is mechanical

    but, when you consider that on a PC you really only have two inputs, keyboard and mouse, for a proper gaming setup, you really need to focus on them, an awesome computer is nice, but a dell can be more fun to play on when the input and output experience and tactile feel is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikaru View Post
    After dropping almost $200 for a new mobo, my wife would kill me if I spent another $200 right away for a case :P
    Return Le Chassis, it will lower the cost of said $200-cost chassis. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Return Le Chassis, it will lower the cost of said $200-cost chassis. :P
    I've had it for almost a year now, can't return it :P

    I do plan on getting this one in a couple months though.
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    Nice choice! The Trooper has gotten a lot of praise.
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