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    Quote Originally Posted by Fierae View Post
    It does indeed, they may state it as a '4GB' model, but each core can only access 2GB. Due to the multiple cores processing alternate frames, each core must then store almost a complete replicate of the other core's memory.
    There are apparently exceptions to the rule, but then it's no longer being used in any conventional way, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader Cronus View Post
    Doesn't it still only add up to 2GB usable VRAM with dual 690s? And with four 680s wouldn't you have 4GB?
    It all depends on what the main card has. If you have 2GB VRAM 680s, then you'll get a total of 2GB of VRAM, even if you have 3 680s backing it up. If it has 4GB, then you'll have 4GB.

    Same thing with the 690s however instead of it being all the VRAM on the PCB itself, it's only the amount they give per 680 chip on the PCB, thus if a 690 is listed as 4GB, you should do some digging, it is probably 2GB per chip, thus effectively 2GB of VRAM total.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alwayzdead View Post
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    Yes, it is very shady and I don't like it.
    Indeed, it can be very misleading.
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    I guess dual-GPU cards are so uncommonly produced and niche that there really isn't enough dissatisfaction to fuel any sort of campaign against it. Well, that and the fact that the people dropping $1000 on a GPU are probably knowledgeable enough on the topic to know exactly what they'll be getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader Cronus View Post
    the fact that the people dropping $1000 on a GPU are probably knowledgeable enough on the topic to know exactly what they'll be getting.
    Plenty of people who just buy the most expensive product because they associate a big price-tag to high quality. Ignorance, yes.

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    True. I suppose it has that appeal of being the highest performing (and most expensive) single card on the market, which attracts a lot of amateur builders with more money than sense who just want something that's "the best there is" and not what's best for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader Cronus View Post
    True. I suppose it has that appeal of being the highest performing (and most expensive) single card on the market, which attracts a lot of amateur builders with more money than sense who just want something that's "the best there is" and not what's best for them.
    Lets not pretend we know the reasons people buy what they do and frankly it's their own damn business. I'm not a moderator but I'd say this thread has gone massively off-topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notarget View Post
    I'm not a moderator but I'd say this thread has gone massively off-topic.
    Indeed. If you want to chat, please use the Computer Chat thread (link my sig) or make a new thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notarget View Post
    Lets not pretend we know the reasons people buy what they do and frankly it's their own damn business. I'm not a moderator but I'd say this thread has gone massively off-topic.
    I think you're misunderstanding me. I never said that everyone who buys a 690 fits into the category of more money than sense, just that it's a card that's more likely to attract some people who want what they perceive as the best without doing a lot of research when compared to its lower-end brothers. Of course it's a great card, and there are plenty of people who buy it as an informed purchase. I'm not making sweeping statements that everyone, or even most, who buy a 690 are ignorant, just that it can be an attractive option for some who are. Just clarifying my point, sorry for this last off-topic post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusader Cronus View Post
    I think you're misunderstanding me. I never said that everyone who buys a 690 fits into the category of more money than sense, just that it's a card that's more likely to attract some people who want what they perceive as the best without doing a lot of research when compared to its lower-end brothers. Of course it's a great card, and there are plenty of people who buy it as an informed purchase. I'm not making sweeping statements that everyone, or even most, who buy a 690 are ignorant, just that it can be an attractive option for some who are. Just clarifying my point, sorry for this last off-topic post.
    you mean this guy?
    http://i.imgur.com/ZbP8Z.jpg

    the price on the 690 keeps most of the more ignorant people from buying it, most owners are like me and get it mainly as an esoteric collector's item, even if 4 680's is better, it is never as special as two 690s, i know that there is less than a handful of computers like mine in the world, and most of them are one time benches for reviewers

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyanotical View Post
    you mean this guy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    you mean this guy?
    the price on the 690 keeps most of the more ignorant people from buying it, most owners are like me and get it mainly as an esoteric collector's item, even if 4 680's is better, it is never as special as two 690s, i know that there is less than a handful of computers like mine in the world, and most of them are one time benches for reviewers
    Honestly I don't know if 4 680s is the better choice. You get more VRAM, sure, but they take more power and space, are less efficient where performance is concerned and really limit your cooling and motherboard options. So if VRAM isn't as big of an issue 2 690s would probably be the better option if you're deciding between the two. As I said earlier, it's about what's best for you in your situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by protput View Post
    oh lawds, is I in heaven?
    I do believe that is the VP of NVidia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NDefer View Post
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    Is a usb3.0 front panel case really worth it? I've been decently happy with my case so far, except the fans don't really push much more then they make noise...

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    Quote Originally Posted by spaace View Post

    Is a usb3.0 front panel case really worth it? I've been decently happy with my case so far, except the fans don't really push much more then they make noise...
    That should be fairly simple to decide, do you use USB 3.0? If so do you use it enough that plugin it in the back is annoying? You can buy a USB 3.0 front panel adapter if you really think you need it.

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