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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    (What with Sandy Bridge usually hitting voltage limit before thermal limit.)
    SB-E doesn't exatly functoin the same as SB, there is a "sweet spot" where they are more stable than stock, this seems to be around 4.6 with 1.4-1.5v, you can go beyond that, but you will never be as stable, and you will hit a thermal limit first


    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    (atleast too a friend of mine and watercooling system building is his job :P)
    if you're friend really did that, then he would have told you to not buy the Cosmos II, its not a very good case for watercooling, nor would he have let you go with an XSPC res

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    I love big cases (thats why i got a Cosmos 2) and i doubt my watercooling system would fit in that case.
    If I were to water cool a computer, I'd get a Switch 810 over a Cosmos 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    SB-E doesn't exatly functoin the same as SB, there is a "sweet spot" where they are more stable than stock, this seems to be around 4.6 with 1.4-1.5v, you can go beyond that, but you will never be as stable, and you will hit a thermal limit first
    That's nice to hear, but I wasn't trying to imply anything about SB-E in the quote... ouo;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    SB-E doesn't exatly functoin the same as SB, there is a "sweet spot" where they are more stable than stock, this seems to be around 4.6 with 1.4-1.5v, you can go beyond that, but you will never be as stable, and you will hit a thermal limit first
    Compared with SB, where voltage will end up killing a chip before you hit thermal limit (assuming you're not being outright stupid with your cooling that is).

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    if you're friend really did that, then he would have told you to not buy the Cosmos II, its not a very good case for watercooling, nor would he have let you go with an XSPC res
    I dunno, the Cosmos 2 has a lot of potential but there certainly are better choices out there. XSPC make some great reservoirs for the low end (and in the UK, they used to be one of the few that made affordable ones -- in fact, they still are one of the only ones) but they're not what i'd recommend either unless you're on a real strict budget. His friend may do system builds for a living, but as many of the regulars know, you can get better advice on most forums than you can "from friends" or from shops.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    If I were to water cool a computer, I'd get a Switch 810 over a Cosmos 2.
    To be fair, with the price of the Cosmos 2, i'd grab a Caselabs case. Their low end cases seem to be a similar price and they're truly beast watercooling cases. Their high end are much more expensive, but you pay for what you get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    if you're friend really did that, then he would have told you to not buy the Cosmos II, its not a very good case for watercooling, nor would he have let you go with an XSPC res
    He doesnt go over cases he goes over watercooling i made the choise for Cosmos 2 because i like the looks and tbh its very good for watercooling it has lots of space and u can place 3 radiators into the case if you want i dont know why many people say its not a good case for watercooling because i find it to be a fantastic case for it i know its not cheap but i got the money so it aint a problem also the XSPC Acrylic Tank Reservoir is in combo with a Laing D5-MCP655 12V that Reservoir doesnt fit on any other pump.[COLOR="red"]

    Ofc did i not only take advise from my friend but also took advise from the forums where i order all my watercooling supplies and since i took a Laing D5-MCP655 12V they advised me too take XSPC Acrylic Tank Reservoir eventho i wanted to go with a different one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synthaxx View Post

    I dunno, the Cosmos 2 has a lot of potential but there certainly are better choices out there. XSPC make some great reservoirs for the low end (and in the UK, they used to be one of the few that made affordable ones -- in fact, they still are one of the only ones) but they're not what i'd recommend either unless you're on a real strict budget. His friend may do system builds for a living, but as many of the regulars know, you can get better advice on most forums than you can "from friends" or from shops.



    To be fair, with the price of the Cosmos 2, i'd grab a Caselabs case. Their low end cases seem to be a similar price and they're truly beast watercooling cases. Their high end are much more expensive, but you pay for what you get.
    I was actually rather disappointed with the Cosmos II, dispite it's size, there is very little it can do without a good amount of case modding, the top does not natively fit a 360 rad, (as you can tell by the screw hole placement, nor can you do push, or push/pull, the top is pull only) and there are some QA issues with the side panel latches, along with a bad fan controller ( pulse style, instead of variable voltage)

    I'd agree that caselabs is a better choice, but water isn't really needed anymore, even if you fit 4 680s in, they will still be within temperature spec under full load

    XSPC's bay res has the same cracking issue as most others, the only one I've seen without this is the Koolance, but it is milled from a solid block of acetal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    along with a bad fan controller
    Fixed this by putting in my own fan controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    Fixed this by putting in my own fan controller.
    Which doesn't really change that for a 300 dollar case, the original fan controller is shit. When you fork over that much money, I expect the stuff is actually remotely useful, which it turned out not to really be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Which doesn't really change that for a 300 dollar case, the original fan controller is shit. When you fork over that much money, I expect the stuff is actually remotely useful, which it turned out not to really be.
    300 euro? LOL i got mine for 230 euro i dont know the value from dollar too euro but i doubt its that difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    300 euro? LOL i got mine for 230 euro i dont know the value from dollar too euro but i doubt its that difference.
    He said dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    300 euro? LOL i got mine for 230 euro i dont know the value from dollar too euro but i doubt its that difference.
    Good for you then. But newegg.com for example has it at 350 dollars, and its release retail price was around 300 dollars.
    EDIT: And tigerdirect.com is 340 dollars. Performance-PCs.com is the same.

    My brother personally paid 2500 NOK (which is about 420 dollars).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Good for you then. But newegg.com for example has it at 350 dollars, and its release retail price was around 300 dollars.
    EDIT: And tigerdirect.com is 340 dollars. Performance-PCs.com is the same.

    My brother personally paid 2500 NOK (which is about 420 dollars).
    If i calculate it my case would cost 282 dollar but 350 is insane lol that would be 285 euro xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endonyx View Post
    If i calculate it my case would cost 282 dollar but 350 is insane lol that would be 285 euro xD
    And that's why I think the case is honestly pretty damn poor for its price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    Which doesn't really change that for a 300 dollar case, the original fan controller is shit. When you fork over that much money, I expect the stuff is actually remotely useful, which it turned out not to really be.
    Yea I definitely noticed that when I upgraded the CM fans in my case to GT AP-15's for the side panel and barely saw a temp difference. After a google search, CM said that anyone who bought a Cosmos II is eligible for a fan controller upgrade so hopefully that fixes it since having the fans on my video cards at 40% idle can get annoying after a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristie View Post
    Yea I definitely noticed that when I upgraded the CM fans in my case to GT AP-15's for the side panel and barely saw a temp difference. After a google search, CM said that anyone who bought a Cosmos II is eligible for a fan controller upgrade so hopefully that fixes it since having the fans on my video cards at 40% idle can get annoying after a while.
    No, my issue with the fan controller was the noise you hear from the fan here.

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