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    I will Post pics after I get it all set up and running. But here are my specs.


    Intel i5-3570k
    Asus P8z77-LK
    Corsair Vengence 8gb ram
    Cooler Master 212 evo
    Crucial M4 64gb ssd
    Gigabyte Windforce 7950 3gb gpu
    Ocz Mod Xtreme Pro 600 psu
    Cooler Master HAF 912
    Samsung 23.6 inch 1080p monitor


    Scored all that with windows 7 for $1198 today. And I have $75 in rebates I may or may not use.


    Pics coming soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidsafe View Post
    That's terrible...I can't believe they're using a PWM controller. PWM signals always create chirps at any RPM, and at with any switching frequency. It's always better to use pure voltage control and fans with low starting voltages.
    It's not a true PWM controller, I believe, but it's like a bastard version of it rather from what I can see.

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    Does anyone know of multi-fan controller that can take a cue from a PWM header (as in, you connect the controller to a molex and motherboard header, which sets the speed of the fans, and have 6 or more fans plugged into the controller)?

    I'd really love to be able to control a group of fans via software. As far as I know, the controllers like Corsair's Link system only offer single/profile control, and are not able to connect 6 fans to a single controller.

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    Trying to set mine up now for a pic

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    So last week I posted that once I was home I'd do some pictures of my new set up - I know I'm a little late in doing them but still; here they are:
    http://imgur.com/8xirC,mTUNg,eKbMF,0Vrvh#0
    http://imgur.com/8xirC,mTUNg,eKbMF,0Vrvh#1
    http://imgur.com/8xirC,mTUNg,eKbMF,0Vrvh#2
    http://imgur.com/8xirC,mTUNg,eKbMF,0Vrvh#3

    The specs are:
    CPU: Intel i7 3770 @3.4-3.9ghz (Yes, the locked version. I don't know anything about overclocking and I'm not particularly interested in doing it in future.)
    GPU: XFX Radeon HD 7850 2gb
    RAM: 16gb (4x4) Corsair 1333mhz
    PSU: Corsair 600CX
    MOBO: Gigabyte Z77-D3H
    HDD: 1TB SATA III
    SSD: 240gb Corsair GT Force Series.
    CPU Cooler: Be Quiet! BK014
    Case: NXZT Phantom 410
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    Everything will be in (hopefully) by Thursday for my new rig. I will post when I get it together, along with the custom desk I am building.

    The components are as follows:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($83.74 @ Mwave)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($185.99 @ NCIX US)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($103.82 @ Adorama)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.98 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Silverstone RV02B-EW ATX Full Tower Case ($168.00 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 860W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($170.00 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
    Monitor: Dell U2312HM 23.0" Monitor ($245.41 @ Mac Connection)
    Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Mouse: Corsair CH-9000001-NA Wired Laser Mouse ($51.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1861.87
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-11 09:44 EDT-0400)

    I know I know, 860W PSU. Platinum. I was going to get the X760 (possible SLi in the future) but, the 860W Platinum was only $2 more.

    Edit: I should mention I did get the CPU and MB at Microcenter... Quite a nice bargain as I will have to run with WiFi temporarily. I will be wiring the house for a hardwire connection to my room.
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    And will thus suffer in efficiency. Oh well, I'm pretty the drawbacks are nothing you will notice, but instead have a great time with the build anyway!
    And I always thought your username was Idrinkwithrussians

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    And I always thought your username was Idrinkwithrussians
    Going by his "location", I'm guessing it is a cocktail
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idrinkwhiterussians View Post
    Everything will be in (hopefully) by Thursday for my new rig. I will post when I get it together, along with the custom desk I am building.

    The components are as follows:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($83.74 @ Mwave)
    Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($185.99 @ NCIX US)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Low Voltage Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($103.82 @ Adorama)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($399.98 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Silverstone RV02B-EW ATX Full Tower Case ($168.00 @ NCIX US)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 860W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($170.00 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Sony AD-7280S-0B DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Amazon)
    Monitor: Dell U2312HM 23.0" Monitor ($245.41 @ Mac Connection)
    Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
    Mouse: Corsair CH-9000001-NA Wired Laser Mouse ($51.98 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1861.87
    (Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-08-11 09:44 EDT-0400)

    I know I know, 860W PSU. Platinum. I was going to get the X760 (possible SLi in the future) but, the 860W Platinum was only $2 more.

    Edit: I should mention I did get the CPU and MB at Microcenter... Quite a nice bargain as I will have to run with WiFi temporarily. I will be wiring the house for a hardwire connection to my room.
    Very nice build, hope everything arrives safely! Take a pic with all the boxes stacked together :P

    Any reason you picked a 60hz 1080p monitor with a whopping 8ms GTG response?
    Last edited by Xuvial; 2012-08-11 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Very nice build, hope everything arrives safely!

    Any reason you've got such a nice setup, only to end up gaming on a 60hz 1080p monitor with a whopping 8ms GTG response?
    The picture, despite being an e-IPS 6bit panel, will look better than any 120Hz screen. (fluidity will not)
    Anything below 17ms is still within the monitors refreshrate and moot.

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    I calculated the total use of the system with OC, and it should run at approximately 35-40% usage, which is right in the range of 91-92% efficiency for this particular PSU.

    I have drank with russians, but love the drink White Russian


    Edit: I did get the panel for the picture quality mainly. I will be doing some editing of pictures and the like as well as gaming, so pretty much what Tetris said.

    Edit2: Lucky 7s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    The picture, despite being an e-IPS 6bit panel, will look better than any 120Hz screen. (fluidity will not)
    Anything below 17ms is still within the monitors refreshrate and moot.
    Well the typical thing I've come to expect from IPS panels is that they're atleast 1200p, preferably 1440p/1600p. I hope he like those colors more than a high refresh rate or bigger resolution.

    All I know is that ghosting is very noticeable on something like that.

    Can you please explain the 17ms thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Well the typical thing I've come to expect from IPS panels is that they're atleast 1200p, preferably 1440p/1600p. I hope he like those colors more than a high refresh rate or bigger resolution.

    Also, ghosting ahoooooy.
    There is hardly any ghosting on the 23-24" Ultrasharps. They are excellent for gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idrinkwhiterussians View Post
    I calculated the total use of the system with OC, and it should run at approximately 35-40% usage, which is right in the range of 91-92% efficiency for this particular PSU.
    Yes, which is the mistake most people make.
    Higher specced PSUs is going to have worse efficiency at the nominal power draw it draws in idle. Some can't even output less than 125~150w, and the lower below 10% you go, the worse and worse efficiency.

    It might seem like a low watt number and all the gaming will make up for it; But considering how often your computer is turned on and how often it's drawing max load -- where is it most often at? In the long run, it will pull more load at idle (total) than it will have done in load (total), especially considering that it won't always even reach full load; That's why aiming for 75-80% is a better choice.
    (oh, and that the lifespan will be reduced faster at 5-50% load than 15-75%, as the latter has far less component degradation)

    I don't mean to rain on your parade - sorry about that! You won't have to worry about the lifespan either, as even with component degradation, it should last you a long time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Well the typical thing I've come to expect from IPS panels is that they're atleast 1200p, preferably 1440p/1600p. I hope he like those colors more than a high refresh rate or bigger resolution.

    All I know is that ghosting is very noticeable on something like that.

    Can you please explain the 17ms thing?
    A frame lasts 16.66rec ms at 60 frames per second (1/60 = 0.016rec).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Can you please explain the 17ms thing?
    1 Hz is roughly 16.66666666667~ms
    So as long as it's under 17ms (ie, 16 even), you wouldn't suffer from frame delay.

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    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm Dell u2313 is about even with the older Benq 120Hz display when it comes to ghosting and destroys everything when it comes to inputlag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    The picture, despite being an e-IPS 6bit panel, will look better than any 120Hz screen. (fluidity will not)
    Anything below 17ms is still within the monitors refreshrate and moot.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 16.7 million colors (which the specs suggest on the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM) 8bit? Or is it only creating an illusion of that many colors?

    Edit: Never mind I found the answer
    The Dell U2312HM utilises an LG.Display LM230WF3-SLD1 e-IPS panel which is capable of producing 16.7 million colours. The panel itself actually uses a 6-bit colour depth with Advanced frame rate control (A-FRC) to produce the 16.7m colours. This is different to regular 8-bit IPS matrices, but this is a measure taken to achieve a lower price point for these modern lower-cost displays. This has been confirmed by Dell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notarget View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't 16.7 million colors (which the specs suggest on the Dell UltraSharp U2312HM) 8bit? Or is it only creating an illusion of that many colors?
    Actually, the U2311H is the one with the 6bit, U2312HM does indeed have 8bit colour depth, correct.
    I just assumed that the e-IPS panel was worse with the U2312HM, it'd also have the same colour depth; It's actually very good in that respect then.
    I'll have to re-evaluate my opinion about it.

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    8 bit colour is 256 colours, no? Or am I confusing something here?
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