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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    This is goddamn Deltrus we're talking about. Norn blood.
    I think Xuvial got it spot on.

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    My Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 came in today!

    Pretty good card, runs at 49 degrees on load with a modest overclock of 925Mhz on the core clock and 1250Mhz on the memory clock with the fan speed at 60%. Idling at 38 degrees with two monitors plugged in. The PCB is insanely smaller then my 6870 too, and only uses a single 6 pin power connector, whereas the 6870 used two. My 6870 was running at 51 degrees idle with dual monitors and around 56 on load with a game on a single screen.

    Here is a visual comparison taken with my phone.



    When I get a second, I will post case photos. Suffice to say I am pretty happy with this card, it performs well and is a nice step up from the 6870 in Borderlands 2, the slight frame rate issues I experienced are now gone.

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    49c load? Wow, very nice.
    Also those 6870 idle/load temps look really wonky, how on earth do they only differ by 5c...I'm thinking drivers!

    Also was the upgrade from 6870 to 7850 worth the jump? Most benches only show a 10-15% performance gap : /


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    I noticed a reasonable difference in Borderlands 2, I haven't tested it on a stress game that really pushes it. To be honest, I still can't figure out why people would spend more then 300 dollars on a graphics card, the games I have been playing recently all run smooth as butter at near max settings. I will have to give Metro: 2033 a whirl as I know that game tends to put a lot of pressure on cards graphically. The temperature I was getting while running Borderlands 2 was at max settings with 80% GPU activity at all times on AMD OverDrive (have it in my second window). I would assume unless I cranked the crap out of the overclock settings and got 100% load, I doubt it would go above 60 degrees.

    In terms of overall temperatures and performance, I think the extra video memory really helps with the frame rates, I was having frame skips in most of my games running just a single monitor on the 6870, at least two active monitors doesn't strain it as much. Since it's a 2GB card, that is what really makes the difference, there really aren't any visual improvements that I have seen yet. I will test it more tomorrow.

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    Why do they spend $300+ for a GPU?

    2560x144 and 120Hz displays. That's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Also those 6870 idle/load temps look really wonky, how on earth do they only differ by 5c...I'm thinking drivers!
    Idle dual monitors, load single monitors.
    I don't remember with nVidia, but at least with AMD, more monitors means more heat.

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    Blah so I broke down and instead of waiting for haswell decided to replace my i5 750 so ordered some new parts. Got me:
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    asrock extreme 4 (with free 8gb ram) didnt get it for this reason lol but well see how well it works with my ram i have lol if not Ill just continue using my old ram.
    and a Samsung 830 128Gb

    no reason to replace my other parts really and I dont feel like dropping the money for a badass video card just yet. Only wanted to spend about about 500. Will get new pics after I get my build redone in my case here in a week or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    To be honest, I still can't figure out why people would spend more then 300 dollars on a graphics card, the games I have been playing recently all run smooth as butter at near max settings.
    Correct, the games you have been playing
    Not the games I have been playing, i.e. Crysis 2, BF3 and GW2 on a 120hz monitor. Theoretically I would need nothing shy of GTX670 SLI to crank out the 100-120 fps (minimum!) @ max settings in the first 2 games :P
    Also as Deltrus said, at 1400/1440p = performance takes a skydive unless you have a card that can really pull it's weight.

    Quote Originally Posted by demonskies View Post
    Blah so I broke down and instead of waiting for haswell decided to replace my i5 750 so ordered some new parts. Got me:
    3570k
    corsair h60
    asrock extreme 4 (with free 8gb ram) didnt get it for this reason lol but well see how well it works with my ram i have lol if not Ill just continue using my old ram.
    and a Samsung 830 128Gb

    no reason to replace my other parts really and I dont feel like dropping the money for a badass video card just yet. Only wanted to spend about about 500. Will get new pics after I get my build redone in my case here in a week or so.
    Fair move mate, waiting for Haswell would have probably been painful...but the HD5870 will remain your primary bottleneck in almost any game bar stuff like WoW. One thing at a time I suppose

    Also I doubt Haswell chips will exactly topple benches in gaming, with SB/IB the GPU still remains the primary bottleneck even with a GTX690.
    And it will continue to stay that way till we see a true monster of a GPU (GK110 maybe?) that literally yells at the CPU "hurry up bitch, give me more frames to render or I'll eat you alive!" Then maybe we'll have a good reason to upgrade from SB/IB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Correct, the games you have been playing
    Not the games I have been playing, i.e. Crysis 2, BF3 and GW2 on a 120hz monitor. Theoretically I would need nothing shy of GTX670 SLI to crank out the 100-120 fps (minimum!) @ max settings in the first 2 games :P
    Also as Deltrus said, at 1400/1440p = performance takes a skydive unless you have a card that can really pull it's weight.
    i.e. dat 384-bit membus!!!

    Also, idk what 1400p is, but a 2560x1600 resolution is I think the other resolution you were thinking of. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Why do they spend $300+ for a GPU?
    2560x144 and 120Hz displays. That's why.

    7950 - Just above 300USD USD Guru3D BF3 Crysis 2

    GTX 660 Ti - Just above 300 USD Guru3D BF3 Crysis 2

    So for those of us who only plays at 60FPS+, 300USD for a GPU is not the max i would spend on a 1920x1080 60HZ Monitor to run the newest games.
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    So finally I can add a decent machine to the list on here got the parts in today and put it together at work right now it's downloading a billion updates gw2 and rift lite but at least everything works

    Case HAF 912
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    Ram: 8 gigs of crucial sport
    DVD burner: some cheap lg
    And windows 7

    Compared to my dual core 2 gig ram computer I just upgraded from this thing should be a beast... Unfortunately I just get to sit here and watch it download lol

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    Really, really happy to see SSD's becoming standard in desktop gaming builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Not the games I have been playing, i.e. Crysis 2, BF3 and GW2 on a 120hz monitor. Theoretically I would need nothing shy of GTX670 SLI to crank out the 100-120 fps (minimum!) @ max settings in the first 2 games :P
    Wuuut? My Single 670 does at least 100 fps @ BF3 using FXAA :X

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    49c load? Wow, very nice.
    Also those 6870 idle/load temps look really wonky, how on earth do they only differ by 5c...I'm thinking drivers!
    my 6870 hawk is the same. it's 57C idle and it only goes a little over 60C in full load on a 950mhz/1200mhz overclock. it seems really strange seeing as it's automatically down clocked to 300mhz core at idle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Really, really happy to see SSD's becoming standard in desktop gaming builds.
    Really happy to see their prices drop to some things that are reasonable.

    Soon, Raid0 gaming standard? ^^;
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    Quote Originally Posted by spaace View Post
    Really happy to see their prices drop to some things that are reasonable.

    Soon, Raid0 gaming standard? ^^;
    No point in using Raid0 for games, imo. A single SSD is all you should ever need for games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protput View Post
    No point in using Raid0 for games, imo. A single SSD is all you should ever need for games.
    i have 2 in raid 0. but sometimes i feel like i should of gone with a single 512gb =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by protput View Post
    No point in using Raid0 for games, imo. A single SSD is all you should ever need for games.
    In the next year or so, I expect that SSD's will start replacing mechanical drives for most purposes. Their higher reliability rates and performance should be reason enough to start ditching mechanical drives for solid state. As larger capacities become cheaper, I'd say in the next 5 years we won't even have mechanical drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    In the next year or so, I expect that SSD's will start replacing mechanical drives for most purposes. Their higher reliability rates and performance should be reason enough to start ditching mechanical drives for solid state. As larger capacities become cheaper, I'd say in the next 5 years we won't even have mechanical drives.
    As much as I wish it was true, I highly disagree. We're going to be using platters for a long time yet.

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