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    Quote Originally Posted by inux94 View Post
    The komplett computer costs $7000, although it comes with Quad SLI 690's, 3960x & 2x 240GB SSD's IIRC.

    The case alone costs ~$450-500
    thats pretty close to mine, but lacks the soundcard, and 5 hard drives, its short on the PSU, and has less and lesser quality ram

    the case is $399 here in the US

    so, that rig should be about $700 less than mine in terms of cost, and last time i did the math mine is around $5k to build, so thats a $2k+ mark up,

    finally there is a situation where building it yourself can save you thousands :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    and last time i did the math mine is around $5k to build, so thats a $2k+ mark up
    25% VAT already added to the price.
    Then additional import taxes on the hardware.
    Yeah, things are less expensive in the US. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Yeah, things are less expensive in the US. :P
    we have things like healthcare to pay for instead :P

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    While I'm trying to be less nazi about this thread, I think we (read: me) are now drifting a bit too off-topic. Chat thread is great! We can talk about anything there.

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    anyway, dusted my desktop out

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    What were your issues with the H80? Pump noise or having to resort to faster/louder fans for the fin-density?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    What were your issues with the H80? Pump noise or having to resort to faster/louder fans for the fin-density?
    i got a bad one, the fins are not spaced right, so putting the pull fan on cause a resonance whine that was loud and annoying

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    Painting the rings of my sp120 fans, color irl is closer to nvidia green than in the pics. Still thinking of swapping to a darker green like emerald green.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EllishaPally View Post
    Painting the rings of my sp120 fans, color irl is closer to nvidia green than in the pics. Still thinking of swapping to a darker green like emerald green.

    [URL=http://imgur.com/GeBrz][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GeBrzt.jpg[/IMG][/URL]
    That's a lot of money in one table. :-) Just ordered 5 of the AF140 fans myself and was rather surprised of how fast the price adds up.

    Looking good though! Waiting for the pics of finished system and your colour scheme.
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    Changed couple of things with my set-up thought Id share it with you guys

    Excuse the iphone cam lol shit quality

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    8g of red vengeance RAM
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    60 g corsair sata 3 SSD boot
    120 OCZ sata 3 SSD main games
    fan controller NZXT SENTRY

    V7 cyborg keybord
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    Looks fairly clean, uncutshadow! Though the cable dangling in front of the desk would drive me haywire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inux94 View Post
    Overestimated the price, but I wouldn't recommend the case to anyone since it's mainly catered to people who want design over usefulness.
    I also want 100% high quality material (aluminum) over usefulness, that means no plastic inside a high end case. Currently, there are very few cases on the market that use no plastic (or are there any at all?). Almost all Lian Li's and Silverstones "fail" here, not even talking about other manufacturers. It was better like 10 years ago, when Coolermaster still made all aluminum cases, but since newer cases have to have more and more and more features, plastic is very common these days, regardless of price.

    I like the InWin H-Frame, though it's a bit too small from the inside (no E-ATX, barely room for Watercooling) and it will eat just too much dust.
    Still, I might buy this case, doesn't get any better than this regarding "no plastic".

    349 EUR here (= 452 US$)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevoc View Post
    I also want 100% high quality material (aluminum) over usefulness, that means no plastic inside a high end case. Currently, there are very few cases on the market that use no plastic (or are there any at all?). Almost all Lian Li's and Silverstones "fail" here, not even talking about other manufacturers.
    If there's any plastic in this case I'm not seeing it...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811112346





    And that's a $99 one. They don't kid around when they say that their cases are fully aluminum (minus the screws I suppose), look at the folding quality :P
    Last edited by Xuvial; 2012-11-26 at 10:47 AM.

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    You have to be as crazy and as paranoid about plastic as I am to see it. But it's not expected from a $99 case to be all aluminum anyway.

    - power and reset button (though not sure here)
    - the inside of the clamper for the 5.25" drive
    - holes for watercooling tubes (yes those can be made out of metal without having them cut through your tubes)
    - the machanism that holds the whole case front
    - small top cover of the case front
    - grid that holds the dust filter
    - parts of the HDD cages
    - case feet all rubber (of course the bottom part or layer must be rubber, but not the whole thing)
    - ...and a few other things

    But there's no point to argue about this, 99% aluminum is fine for 99% of buyers. Any discussion leads to nowhere, as almost nobody is gonna accept if someone criticizes a few minor plastic parts. Of course it's fine to use plastic if it is the technologically superior material, I just don't like it if they use it due to cost savings, and in most cases that is the reason.


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    █ Case: Silverstone TJ10S with 5 x Noise Blocker eLoop Bionic 120 mm █ OS: Windows 7 Ultimate

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    My desktop's updated yet again a little bit. At the moment running with:

    CPU: Core i7 3770K
    Motherboard: MSI Z77 MPower
    RAM: 16gb (cheapo-RAM ftl)
    SSDs: Corsair Force 3 240gb SSD, A-Data S596 Turbo 128gb SSD
    HDDs: 2x Western Digital 500gb HDDs
    Gfx: Radeon HD 7970+7950 Crossfire
    PSU: Zalman 850W (ZM850-HP Plus)

    And its all packed in Coolermaster HAF Red limited edition case.

    I'll have to take a pic of the setup at some point :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    Yep you're crazy and paranoid -_-
    I agree. Expecting absolutely no plastic in a case is unreasonable... There are some areas where plastic/rubber makes more sense, specifically in some of the areas Sarevoc mentioned (buttons, grommets, dust filters, feet, etc).

    I can't think of any plastic in my Silverstone TJ08-E that is unreasonable, nor in any of the modern Fractal Design or Corsair cases I've worked with.

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    Deleted a few posts for Spam.
    Keep in the chat forum if you're going to discuss taxes further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    anyway, dusted my desktop out
    Looks excellent, especially with the cables running through the back instead. Makes for a much cleaner impression. I have myself been thinking about removing the H80 in favour of a (much quieter) air cooler. With my leaf-blower 7970 I doubt it will do much difference as a whole though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noteworthynerd View Post
    I agree. Expecting absolutely no plastic in a case is unreasonable...
    Well, InWin almost did it with the H-Frame! Apart from the feet (which could be easily replaced or removed), it's exactly that: no plastic at all.
    That's why I find this case so fascinating.

    This is a 1 out of 1000 case, and then they marry it with a weird open air concept and "ruin" it by that.
    Obviously there are no customers for all aluminum cases, or else other manufacturers would offer such products. No market for $1000+ cases.

    High quality all aluminum cases are standard in High End HiFi, they are non existant in the PC world.
    Like this Jeff Rowland power amplifier for example. Never ever seen similar "quality" in the PC world. You could say it's not necessary, but that's also true for HiFi, yet there they still exist, albeit the price point is in a different dimension.

    Something like this for an ATX PC would be my "do it yourself" project, I'm willing to spend a few thousand $ for it.

    Last edited by Sarevoc; 2012-11-26 at 07:33 PM.
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