1. #10061
    Pit Lord Wries's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Posts
    2,319
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    4+1 phases is fine, even for overclocking; Anything beyond 8+2 is superfluous
    At least in the P8P67,z68 series, ASUS limited OC capabilities by removing LLC and manual vcore settings on their 4+1 phase motherboards. Don't know about the z77 but I'd stay away.

    Iirc we also had someone on this board blowing up the capacitors on a 4+1 phase mobo while attempting a higher overclock. Granted it was sandy-b.
    Last edited by Wries; 2013-02-02 at 09:22 AM.
    Obsidian 350D | i7 2700K @ 4.8GHz | Corsair H110 | ASUS Maximus V Gene Z77 | 32GB RAM | Nvidia Geforce GTX Titan @ 1.1Ghz | 500GB SSD | 4TB Stripe

  2. #10062
    TOTALLY NOT
    Banned
    tetrisGOAT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    12,478
    * shrugs

    I'm with Gigabyte and P55, but I still achieve a reasonable 50% overclock.

  3. #10063
    Brewmaster Majesticii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,413
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    * shrugs

    I'm with Gigabyte and P55, but I still achieve a reasonable 50% overclock.
    So do i, but i have 8+2 drMOS (p55-gd80).
    I'm still saying 4+1 is the bare minimum you can buy, putting a 3570K on that and expecting to hit high is just silly.

  4. #10064
    Legendary! Holo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    The Netherlands
    Posts
    6,287
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    My question would be, why have a poor 4+1 phase motherboard in a $2.4k build. Specially since he got a K processor. With that CPU power supply you can forget any kind of decent OC.
    He's lucky it's dual 8x PCI-E, i wonder if he checked it for that.
    I've got exactly that mobo, and i run 4400 :/

    i5-3570k @ 4.4GHz|8GB DDR3 1600MHz|EVGA GTX 670 FTW x2 SLI|Samsung 830 128GB SSD

  5. #10065
    Brewmaster Majesticii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,413
    Quote Originally Posted by Holo View Post
    I've got exactly that mobo, and i run 4400 :/
    Am anxious to know if that'll remain the same in about a year. Neither is 4.4ghz really high.
    Frankly i don't really care that you do, the fact still remains that I find it a wierd purchase.
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2013-02-02 at 11:10 AM.

  6. #10066
    Field Marshal
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Fort McMurray AB
    Posts
    80
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    You can pull zip-ties... really really really tight.
    Zip-tie gun ftw imo. Use one at work for the wiring harnesses on cranes and boy, never pull a zip-tie by hand again haha.

  7. #10067

  8. #10068
    Brewmaster Majesticii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,413
    Quote Originally Posted by Captn View Post
    <3 metroid prime

  9. #10069
    Mechagnome Punisher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Québec
    Posts
    569
    This is my first build, the pic is quite old and I did a lot of cable mangement improvement since I took the pictures, I have a IDE/SATA adapter in the 5.25" case, that's why there is 2 Molex (One for the adapter and one for the HDD). I plan to OC my CPU soon, but nothing extreme, just to learn how.

    Interior:


    Cable "Management =P "

    I don't have a modular PSU so it was a challenge, but I did something acceptable (I think ^^ )


    My GC is a 7850, it may seems a bit low, but I was gaming with a 6550, So this card is pretty much overkill for me, and its was a budget build (it cost me around 1100$, but I got some problems with the customs , im living in Canada and ordered the pieces from USA and the case cost me 100 buck instead of 30 )

    Tell me what you think about it!
    (Spec are in my sig)
    My first build:
    Storage: Kingston SSD Now V200+ 120G and WD Caviar Blue HDD 500 G
    Processing Units: i5-3570k @ 3.8 Ghz cooled by 212 Evo and MSI Twin Frozr 3, R7850 @ 900, 1200
    Mobo, Ram, PSU Gigabyte Z77-D3H and G.Skill ripjaw 2x 4G with XFX 550w
    If I am unreadable, its not because I hate grammar, its because Im french-canadian

  10. #10070
    I have never been charged customs for buying computer components. I buy all my stuff from Newegg.ca or NCIX (online and in store). Newegg Canada ships a lot of components from the USA though like graphics cards, monitors and cases. Small components like HDD's come from within Canada.

  11. #10071
    Mechagnome Punisher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Québec
    Posts
    569
    My uncle was in the USA, so He picked up pieces from a adress he has in New York, but the total price of the pieces was more than the 48h limit (don't know the exact law, but you have a maximum value of things you buy if you are not a permanent resident), so I needed to pay the extras

    And Amazon.ca prices are twice those of the usa
    My first build:
    Storage: Kingston SSD Now V200+ 120G and WD Caviar Blue HDD 500 G
    Processing Units: i5-3570k @ 3.8 Ghz cooled by 212 Evo and MSI Twin Frozr 3, R7850 @ 900, 1200
    Mobo, Ram, PSU Gigabyte Z77-D3H and G.Skill ripjaw 2x 4G with XFX 550w
    If I am unreadable, its not because I hate grammar, its because Im french-canadian

  12. #10072
    Ah, I thought you had ordered it online. Yeah, you are better off paying the shipping fees and buying online then getting the components from across the border.

  13. #10073
    Mechagnome Punisher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2012
    Location
    Québec
    Posts
    569
    I didn't bought all the pieces online, only CPU, Mobo, Ram and GPU, (Then shipped it to my Uncle adress in New York) I bought the rest at local stores, but I should have all get it online, I would have save few bucks ^^

    Else what do you think of the build?
    My first build:
    Storage: Kingston SSD Now V200+ 120G and WD Caviar Blue HDD 500 G
    Processing Units: i5-3570k @ 3.8 Ghz cooled by 212 Evo and MSI Twin Frozr 3, R7850 @ 900, 1200
    Mobo, Ram, PSU Gigabyte Z77-D3H and G.Skill ripjaw 2x 4G with XFX 550w
    If I am unreadable, its not because I hate grammar, its because Im french-canadian

  14. #10074
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    My question would be, why have a poor 4+1 phase motherboard in a $2.4k build. Specially since he got a K processor. With that CPU power supply you can forget any kind of decent OC.
    He's lucky it's dual 8x PCI-E, i wonder if he checked it for that.
    Can you explain what you mean by the 4+1 phase motherboard? This is the first time I have heard of such a thing, but it is OC'd to 4.7, which I'd call a decent OC. But the OC is restricted by the Vcore and temps, which I am not sure if that problem is related to what you're talking about? Yes I did look for the dual 8x pci-e.

    Any other comments on my build?
    Last edited by Kevin38924; 2013-02-02 at 10:03 PM.

  15. #10075
    The Insane DeltrusDisc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    15,028
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin38924 View Post
    Can you explain what you mean by the 4+1 phase motherboard? This is the first time I have heard of such a thing, but it is OC'd to 4.7, which I'd call a decent OC. But the OC is restricted by the Vcore and temps, which I am not sure if that problem is related to what you're talking about? And yes, when I looked for a PSU, I wanted dual 8 pin pci-e for a possible crossfire later on and fully modular with decent braids as well as 80+ gold rating.

    Any other comments on my build?
    The 4+1 etc etc, is all about power phase delivery to the CPU through the motherboard and essentially how many and what types of mosfets are on the motherboard, from what I understand. Higher-end motherboards typically have more and higher quality selections.

  16. #10076
    Mechagnome Stravs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Uk Cumbrian Lake District
    Posts
    681
    Why even bother to mention about dual 8x pci-e lanes...... the difference between 8x and 16x is hardly noticeable if anything at all 4+1 phase is more than enough for a decent OC he proved that with 4.7ghz. Not having a go just stating it's not really worth pointing out.
    i5 2500k @ 4.2ghz-Asus Sabertooth P67 B3 8gb Corsair XMS-3
    EVGA GTX 670 4tw 4gb
    CreativeX-Fi Titanium Pro paired with (Corsair SP2500)
    Corsair HX850
    250gb Samsung 840 ssd
    Silverstone Raven 3

  17. #10077
    Brewmaster Majesticii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,413
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravs View Post
    Why even bother to mention about dual 8x pci-e lanes...... the difference between 8x and 16x is hardly noticeable if anything at all 4+1 phase is more than enough for a decent OC he proved that with 4.7ghz. Not having a go just stating it's not really worth pointing out.
    Who said anything about a 8x8x vs 16x16x. Not every motherboard has 8x8x or 16x16x, most cheaper models have only 4x on the second slot (16x4x) which is shit for SLI/CF. And next time if you say someone is giving false statements, get some facts, not just flatout tell them they're wrong like you're doing now. Also, besides the 4+1, the VRM cooling is very basic.

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/...board_review/7

    Here's what can go wrong on a 4+1 phase board. You say he proved it's stable, but i haven't heard any stability tests (12hr). And the board is brand new, it's not going to immediatly fail.
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2013-02-02 at 10:03 PM.

  18. #10078
    The Insane DeltrusDisc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    15,028
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Who said anything about a 8x8x vs 16x16x. Not every motherboard has 8x8x or 16x16x, most cheaper models have only 4x on the second slot (16x4x) which is shit for SLI/CF.
    Hell mine can only manage 16x1x. I wish I could just make it 8x8x instead. lol

  19. #10079
    Mechagnome Stravs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Uk Cumbrian Lake District
    Posts
    681
    Well I assume you said it judging by the negativity on the comment ..... not looking for an argument I cba and power phases have never been a problem in the past and I doubt they are now...it's something the avg user turns a blind eye too imo.
    i5 2500k @ 4.2ghz-Asus Sabertooth P67 B3 8gb Corsair XMS-3
    EVGA GTX 670 4tw 4gb
    CreativeX-Fi Titanium Pro paired with (Corsair SP2500)
    Corsair HX850
    250gb Samsung 840 ssd
    Silverstone Raven 3

  20. #10080
    Brewmaster Majesticii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Netherlands
    Posts
    1,413
    Quote Originally Posted by Stravs View Post
    Well I assume you said it judging by the negativity on the comment ..... not looking for an argument I cba and power phases have never been a problem in the past and I doubt they are now...it's something the avg user turns a blind eye too imo.
    If you're not bothered with it, or have no constructive arguments, then i suggest you don't criticise.

    About the VRM cooling. You be the judge which gets you the best milage.
    http://images.bit-tech.net/content_i...gd80/gd802.jpg
    vs
    http://limages.vr-zone.net/body/1570...vlk_1.jpg.jpeg

    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Hell mine can only manage 16x1x. I wish I could just make it 8x8x instead. lol
    My first board P7P55D had 16x4x. I didn't look at it when i bought it.
    Last edited by Majesticii; 2013-02-02 at 10:13 PM.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •