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I love OS X. Hoping to eventually have a dual boot on my current system, and use Windows for gaming, OSX for my audio / video production. Just waiting on some updated stuff for UEFI BIOS utilities from a certain site, then ill be g2g with a second SSD having OS X on it, wheee.
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Gotten my 780 TF MSI back from RMA (fan closest to ports was rattling +/- 8months after purchase), they upgraded me to a brand new lightning, so freakin' happy.
It's not a Ti but holy hell what a beast of a card!
no need to be rude to begin with, but hypocrisy at its best here.
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Apple are generally obnoxiously expensive, but don't apply that brush to every product without spending a moment to check what you're getting versus what the price is. The newest Mac Pro, the socalled 'trashbins', sport FirePro cards that normally would be obscenely more expensive.
While i don't like apple, i have to admit that the new mac pro is actually not that expensive. If you spec out a similar pc based system, you end up with pretty much the same price. Only that the mac pro is about the size of a small Mini-ITX system and the pc is a normal-sized (or at least µATX) tower.
Why do something simple, when there is a complicated way?
On the other hand anyone who can actually make use of it probably doesn't care about what it costs and uses it as a bussines expense.
On a different note, there is no arguing with the fact that their midsection products are very overpriced, try adding one tb of storage, or a few gb's of memory on a regular mac, you'll pay its price as if it was gold, the iphone being the best example.
And if you don't believe that i'll gladly pair up a pc versus an imac.
What apple does have are very good designers/engineers, and a glorious marketing department since half of their customers only buys their stuff because of the brand, which in it's own shows what kind of genius jobs was.
In the end it comes down to one thing, something is worth as much as you're willing to spend on it.
We aren't saying the mid-tier/consumer-end products aren't overpriced, they most certainly are, however, this Mac Pro, which is really not a consumer-grade product, as it is more focused on people doing graphic design work for businesses, etc, which means business expense, like you said.
AMD FirePro and NVidia's equivalent, the Quadro series, are both enterprise-grade hardware and thus very very expensive... but have their own benefits plus much better support.
The D700 GPU in the mac pro has the same specs as the W9000 FirePro.The D500 is roughly the same as the W8000 GPU in other workstations, and the D300 is roughly the same as the w7000. Apple clocks their GPUs down a bit (about 10% under stock) which will help with reliability/longevity, but probably also owes a bit to being crammed into such a tiny case. Fortunately, in the reviews we've seen posted (ars technica and others) throttling doesn't seem to be a concern so they must be doing something right. Apple does the 'consumer style' base/boost clock speed trick so at idle your power draw will be very low, where as many workstation GPUs run at their full ordinary clock speed all the time.I checked for the gpu's these things have and i cant seem to find them, at least not one with a price on it.
The biggest difference is in GPU memory. The low end D300 mac pro ships with 2gb of memory per card, most OEM workstation builders (HP, Lenovo, etc) are going to ship 4gb. At the high-end, they're all shipping 6gb per card. Also, while the system memory is ECC DDR3, the VRAM on Apple's graphics cards do not use ECC-GDD5. We don't have any evidence that this was a bad choice, but it's still a difference worth noting.