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    Is there a decent upgrade over the GTX 970 out that doesn't cost $400+?

    Like the title say's Is there a decent upgrade over the GTX 970 out that doesn't cost $400+?

    Looking to maybe upgrade my GPU to one that isn't gimped

    Just wondered what is better then it by a decent amount. I was thinking maybe 1070.
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    Yes, there have been options for the 1070 on the market for under $400 for months now. Just pay attention to the sales. Such as this EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition for $374, no mail in rebate required to get that price. EVGA also has that same card on their site with a free game for $389. Not sure if getting if via Amazon at the lower price nets you the free game, it should, but the Amazon listing doesn't mention it so I can't say 100% for certain.

    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-...words=gtx+1070
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicer299 View Post
    Yes, there have been options for the 1070 on the market for under $400 for months now. Just pay attention to the sales. Such as this EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition for $374, no mail in rebate required to get that price.

    https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-...words=gtx+1070
    Ya but how much of a upgrade is the 1070 over the 970? If its like 15% I'm not dropping $375 for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ya but how much of a upgrade is the 1070 over the 970? If its like 15% I'm not dropping $375 for it.
    The 1070 outperforms a 980.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    The 1070 outperforms a 980.
    Yes I know it outperforms a 980. What I want to know is by how much.

    A GTX 970 OCed can equal a base 980. That's my main thing I'm wanting to know, Is how big of a performance gain is it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ya but how much of a upgrade is the 1070 over the 970? If its like 15% I'm not dropping $375 for it.
    For games like BF1 and GTA V we're talking up to 40% more fps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theprejudice View Post
    For games like BF1 and GTA V we're talking up to 40% more fps.
    Nice.

    The Main Cards I been looking at is a R9 480x/GTX 1060 or GTX 1070.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorgodeus View Post
    The 1070 outperforms a 980.
    It outperforms the 980 Ti in certain games even.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ya but how much of a upgrade is the 1070 over the 970? If its like 15% I'm not dropping $375 for it.
    Go look at benchmarks, as "how much of an upgrade" will vary from game to game. As for linking benchmarks, it's always best for anyone to research their own benchmarks as any linking them can end up in a debate over bias. Just Google GTX 1070 Reviews, both written and video, and form your own opinion as to how much of an upgrade you think it will be for you based on the games you play.

    Don't waste money on a 1060 or a 480, neither of those cards are really an upgrade for a 970. You will see better performance in some games, but not $250+ worth of performance. You'd be upgrading to a newer generation of cards, but a lower tier of cards in the new generation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slicer299 View Post
    Don't waste money on a 1060 or a 480, neither of those cards are really an upgrade for a 970. You will see better performance in some games, but not $250+ worth of performance. You'd be upgrading to a newer generation of cards, but a lower tier of cards in the new generation.
    Thx for the info and ya I didn't think the 1060/480 was worth it at all. Figured if there was one it would be the 1070 or higher. Ya ill pull up some benchmarks tomorrow.

    Thinking of doing both a GPU upgrade and a Ram upgrade.

    Thx for all the reply's guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Nice.

    The Main Cards I been looking at is a R9 480x/GTX 1060 or GTX 1070.
    1080s are also priced now that its worth the extra bit to get them over a 1070. so if you have money for a 1070 pinch a little bit more and go big.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta333 View Post
    1080s are also priced now that its worth the extra bit to get them over a 1070. so if you have money for a 1070 pinch a little bit more and go big.
    A 1080 Isn't worth that extra $155+ if you're not playing at 1440p or higher though. Anyone playing at 1080p, even 144Hz, a 1070 is way more than enough. And I say that from first hand experience as someone with a 1070 and a 144Hz monitor. Benchmarks back that up too. If you're not playing at 1440p at higher, you are paying for frames you can't benefit from. Even then a 1070 is more than capable of [email protected]

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    "speed doubles every 18 months" is long gone.
    Just like Blizzard, Intel is very lazy and milking right now.

    One generation gives 5% to 20% upgrade.

    970 to 1070 is actually not bad.
    i7 CPU is only 5% per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Like the title say's Is there a decent upgrade over the GTX 970 out that doesn't cost $400+?

    Looking to maybe upgrade my GPU to one that isn't gimped

    Just wondered what is better then it by a decent amount. I was thinking maybe 1070.
    Even a base 1060 would be an upgrade and they are cheap as dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ya but how much of a upgrade is the 1070 over the 970? If its like 15% I'm not dropping $375 for it.
    http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-...indForce-3X-OC

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    For graphs that are a bit easier to read in my opinion: AnandTech Bench

    A pretty steady 40-50% performance boost over the GTX 970. You can play with the drop-downs to see the comparisons between it and the 1060/480 as well, though take all benchmarks you read anywhere with the knowledge that they are tested with launch-day drivers; NVIDIA and AMD both see performance improvements over time, with AMD seeing more to the point the RX 480 and GTX 1060 6GB are very close in performance.

    TL;DR: get 1070, 1060 not upgrade, 480 not upgrade
    Super casual.

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    I personally think there are no logical upgrades for a 970, your upgrade will be the 1160.

    400 dollars for 30-40% gains is not good value for money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fascinate View Post
    I personally think there are no logical upgrades for a 970, your upgrade will be the 1160.

    400 dollars for 30-40% gains is not good value for money.
    One thing that makes me consider it is the fact the GTX 970 is using gimped VRAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Like the title say's Is there a decent upgrade over the GTX 970 out that doesn't cost $400+?

    Looking to maybe upgrade my GPU to one that isn't gimped

    Just wondered what is better then it by a decent amount. I was thinking maybe 1070.
    AMD Vega is coming soon, it should be between now and june, the 970 can surely hold its ground by then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorianrage View Post
    AMD Vega is coming soon, it should be between now and june, the 970 can surely hold its ground by then.
    Ya I may just wait and see what Vega shows. Its not a upgrade I need now or even need at all. Its just one I rather do, alongside a RAM upgrade.

    GPU price mite even lower a little by then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Ya I may just wait and see what Vega shows. Its not a upgrade I need now or even need at all. Its just one I rather do, alongside a RAM upgrade.

    GPU price mite even lower a little by then.
    Should be, in the UK, I can get hold of a 4GB RX 480 for like £160ish, so I am going to assume the GPU that will be positioned between this and the high end might be just above £200.

    I doubt AMD will leave a huge gap in its product stack like Nvidia has been doing, the area between the RX480 performance and the 1070 is just empty, I'm sure we will see competing GPUs in the high end, just have to see if AMD can release most of its lineup at the same time (which it really needs to do).

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