1. #3721
    TOTALLY NOT
    Banned
    tetrisGOAT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    13,663
    Quote Originally Posted by Mortalis71 View Post
    The only reason people buy higher wattage then they need is because if you use 100% of your 450w it's going to be inefficient and will die quickly. The fan will also be at max and it will be loud.
    And it will age almost as quick at <50%. 70-80% is a good place to land.
    And it's hardly the only reason. The most prime reason is that people think that more = better. If I have a higher number on my PSU, my FPS will increase.
    Since it's the only number they come across that make sense to them, they incorrectly assume that having more is a good thing.

    A good PSU won't have loud fans either way. The X-series from SeaSonic for instance, have fans that barely runs at all until 75% load, and only in high ambient temperatures. At 100% load, I think the fan runs at 33% or something like it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghâzh View Post
    The numbers I'm seeing in the tomshardware article doesn't really support that
    Stop using Toms Hardware for anything other than laughing at, then? I really can't take anything they're writing about hardware seriously. They are like the wow-insider of hardware.

  2. #3722
    Pit Lord Ghâzh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland
    Posts
    2,322
    Who could've seen that one coming Well at least I'm basing my assumptions on some proof while you are showing none. Toms hardware is fine as long as you have some common sense and read it critically, as you would do with any piece of literature.

  3. #3723
    TOTALLY NOT
    Banned
    tetrisGOAT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    13,663
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghâzh View Post
    Who could've seen that one coming Well at least I'm basing my assumptions on some proof while you are showing none. Toms hardware is fine as long as you have some common sense and read it critically, as you would do with any piece of literature.
    I could show you some. Are you able to read Swedish?

    The "bring proof" point only works if you offer some yourself. And Tom's hardware is precisely not that. And people keep bringing them up.

  4. #3724
    Pit Lord Ghâzh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Helsinki, Finland
    Posts
    2,322
    I doubt that swedish numbers are that much different from the ones more widely used And I sort of did, offer some myself, refering of course to the article from where this started.

    Don't really see how they could have messed up the results in the particular case which shows 3 different kind of setups (low, mid and high) with both lower and higher quality power supplies in them, testing the idle loads. Each of them seems to be within 10watts range of each other. Unless they are flat out lying, which I see no reason to, albeit possible.

  5. #3725
    The Insane DeltrusDisc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    17,310
    Take it to PMs, please.

    Quick, someone post a picture that is vaguely as cool as Ispano's, Cyanotical's, or that one guy from one of the earlier pages, setups.

    ---------- Post added 2011-10-03 at 01:01 AM ----------

    This one: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post10091660
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Online dating turned into circumcision discussion. Good job MMO-C, it only took 25 pages.
    My Ridiculous Computer Setup

    MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL: Beer, Games, Opinions
    | CPU Overclocking Thread | GPU Overclocking Thread

  6. #3726
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Quick, someone post a picture that is vaguely as cool as Ispano's, Cyanotical's, or that one guy from one of the earlier pages, setups.
    I typed in awesome computer in google.

    Probably doesnt have amazing hardware but still looks cool!
    Last edited by georgevonfranken; 2011-10-03 at 02:08 AM.

  7. #3727
    Dreadlord pOO flinger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    786
    I want one!

    That would be cool for an HTPC.

  8. #3728
    Quote Originally Posted by georgevonfranken View Post
    I typed in awesome computer in google.

    Probably doesnt have amazing hardware but still looks cool!
    Are those heatsinks coming out of the front?

  9. #3729
    I am Murloc! Cyanotical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    5,526
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Take it to PMs, please.

    Quick, someone post a picture that is vaguely as cool as Ispano's, Cyanotical's, or that one guy from one of the earlier pages, setups.

    ---------- Post added 2011-10-03 at 01:01 AM ----------

    This one: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...1#post10091660
    hopefully he is doing better with his frozenQ helix reservoir then i did, my blue/amber one developed a bunch of cracks and fell to pieces

    i7-6700K | Z170 Class. K | 16GB DDR4-3200 | GTX-980ti | Samsung 950 Pro RAID0 | SuperNOVA 1Kw P2 | Lian Li PC-07S
    ROG Swift PG348Q | Ducky DSX | Zowie ZA11 | Xonar Essence One | Tannoy Reveal 402

  10. #3730
    The Insane DeltrusDisc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    17,310
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    hopefully he is doing better with his frozenQ helix reservoir then i did, my blue/amber one developed a bunch of cracks and fell to pieces
    whoa whoa. Say whaaaat?! When did this happen?
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Online dating turned into circumcision discussion. Good job MMO-C, it only took 25 pages.
    My Ridiculous Computer Setup

    MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL: Beer, Games, Opinions
    | CPU Overclocking Thread | GPU Overclocking Thread

  11. #3731
    I am Murloc! Cyanotical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    5,526
    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    whoa whoa. Say whaaaat?! When did this happen?
    a while back, its when i swithed to a twin loop and when i swapped out the fans and tubing to white colored ones:


    i7-6700K | Z170 Class. K | 16GB DDR4-3200 | GTX-980ti | Samsung 950 Pro RAID0 | SuperNOVA 1Kw P2 | Lian Li PC-07S
    ROG Swift PG348Q | Ducky DSX | Zowie ZA11 | Xonar Essence One | Tannoy Reveal 402

  12. #3732
    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    a while back, its when i swithed to a twin loop and when i swapped out the fans and tubing to white colored ones:

    I like the white quite a bit better, but I'm just a fan of clean looking design.

  13. #3733
    The Insane DeltrusDisc's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    Illinois, USA
    Posts
    17,310
    So wait you switched to the white before or after it happened?
    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Online dating turned into circumcision discussion. Good job MMO-C, it only took 25 pages.
    My Ridiculous Computer Setup

    MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL: Beer, Games, Opinions
    | CPU Overclocking Thread | GPU Overclocking Thread

  14. #3734
    I am Murloc! Cyanotical's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    Colorado
    Posts
    5,526
    when i changed out the frozenQ reservior for the rp-402x2, i added a second pump, 3rd radiator, nzxt fans, and solid white tubing

    i7-6700K | Z170 Class. K | 16GB DDR4-3200 | GTX-980ti | Samsung 950 Pro RAID0 | SuperNOVA 1Kw P2 | Lian Li PC-07S
    ROG Swift PG348Q | Ducky DSX | Zowie ZA11 | Xonar Essence One | Tannoy Reveal 402

  15. #3735
    I wouldn't trust myself with watercooling

  16. #3736





    I know what you gonna say...but it works if you are patient. Yes, i am.

    I'll put specs down later

    Edit: World of Warcraft & Crysis just installed. It's gonna be mad!

    <User was infracted for this post: Don't spam; post more constructively in the future.>
    Last edited by Marest; 2011-10-03 at 10:17 AM.
    It's like we are all Red Jelly Beans in a Jar full of various colors. Every now and then they reach in and get a Red Jelly Bean.
    We know we are in there, we can see the color, we just can't do anything to speed up our being taken out of the jar -- Jelly Beans can't speak.

  17. #3737

  18. #3738
    Quote Originally Posted by georgevonfranken View Post
    I typed in awesome computer in google.

    Probably doesnt have amazing hardware but still looks cool!
    wuld love to have one of these
    My Youtube.
    Take a look and comment!

  19. #3739
    Elemental Lord
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Location
    America's Hat
    Posts
    8,747
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    And it will age almost as quick at <50%. 70-80% is a good place to land.
    And it's hardly the only reason. The most prime reason is that people think that more = better. If I have a higher number on my PSU, my FPS will increase.
    Since it's the only number they come across that make sense to them, they incorrectly assume that having more is a good thing.

    A good PSU won't have loud fans either way. The X-series from SeaSonic for instance, have fans that barely runs at all until 75% load, and only in high ambient temperatures. At 100% load, I think the fan runs at 33% or something like it.
    Stop using Toms Hardware for anything other than laughing at, then? I really can't take anything they're writing about hardware seriously. They are like the wow-insider of hardware.
    Yup, my Thermaltake Comet 780 watt power supply is dead silent on load, my MSI Twin Frozor HD 6870 fans are much louder.

    Actually, speaking of GPU fans, I have a question. Has anyone ever changed the fans on a Twin Frozor card to something quieter? I know you can get VGA coolers, but I was more interested in the possibility of changing out the stock card fans for something that doesn't sound like a jet engine on load but still spins well enough to cool the card.

    Congrats to the 8 fools who made the ignore list, your ignorance knows no bounds, bravo!

  20. #3740
    Dreadlord pOO flinger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Washington State
    Posts
    786
    My new 23" LED Asus monitor just arrived from Newegg today!
    The new monitor replaced a 3-4 year old 19" 1280x1024 monitor. The improvement is astounding. The very first thing i did after getting it set up is play Crysis, and i thought Crysis looked good already! I think i spent about 3 hours just messing around while my eyes were having orgasms.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •