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    Corsair is really getting worse with their PSUs. Okay, they're not bad, but they're continuously moving further from perfect.

    And even if the sticker is upside-down, it's still better than mounting the PSU upside-down. The funny thing is, though, that even cases with a top-mounted PSU would likely have the sticker upside-down since most of those are fan-down as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Corsair is really getting worse with their PSUs. Okay, they're not bad, but they're continuously moving further from perfect.
    I don't see why you're throwing this out there, especially with literally no reasoning to it whatsoever. If it's that the sticker is wrong side up on one side... well, that's not what happens. I'm pretty sure all of Corsair powersupplies have this.

    A weakness that does exist for the Corsair powersupplies is the sleeving side. Not the stock job, I mean if you want to sleeve the powersupply yourself. The wires often go from one pin to two pins, or two pins or even three pins to one pin. The pins themselves are quite rubbish too and are really uncooperative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    I don't see why you're throwing this out there, especially with literally no reasoning to it whatsoever. If it's that the sticker is wrong side up on one side... well, that's not what happens. I'm pretty sure all of Corsair powersupplies have this.

    A weakness that does exist for the Corsair powersupplies is the sleeving side. Not the stock job, I mean if you want to sleeve the powersupply yourself. The wires often go from one pin to two pins, or two pins or even three pins to one pin. The pins themselves are quite rubbish too and are really uncooperative.
    I'd say he was more referring to the fact that corsair products in general are going down the tubes, more and more stuff seems tailored to sell because it is cheap rather than being good. Don't get me wrong i love corsair but I too have noticed the downward spiral.

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    No, the actual integrals of it. They make some really strange decisions. They will likely never go back to making outright bad PSUs, but they've really lost their edge. Single Rail is disappointing as well.

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    Can you guys at least back up what you're saying with something more descriptive and solid than flailing your arms in the air? :|

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    No, the actual integrals of it. They make some really strange decisions. They will likely never go back to making outright bad PSUs, but they've really lost their edge. Single Rail is disappointing as well.
    The strange decisions are not strange if you look at it from a business standpoint, eventually every company does it for how long is the question? It was proven however single rail is better than multiples, for power distribution but on the other hand it does have an effect on lifespan or "durability" ill dig the article up but single rail would likely be my choice @ 1200w

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkshake86 View Post
    The strange decisions are not strange if you look at it from a business standpoint, eventually every company does it for how long is the question? It was proven however single rail is better than multiples, for power distribution but on the other hand it does have an effect on lifespan or "durability" ill dig the article up but single rail would likely be my choice @ 1200w
    Single rail would not be my choice >450w, especially if you follow ATX12 regulations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    Single rail would not be my choice >450w, especially if you follow ATX12 regulations.
    there is no reason to go with a multi rail over a single other than personal pride at taking a few extra minutes to figure out the correct way to lay out the pci-e connectors

    it provides no added safety benefit anymore, most modern multi rail units are split from a single rail anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    there is no reason to go with a multi rail over a single other than personal pride at taking a few extra minutes to figure out the correct way to lay out the pci-e connectors

    it provides no added safety benefit anymore, most modern multi rail units are split from a single rail anyway
    Most non-crap multi-rail PSUs have that built-in, so that the PCIe lanes are either a separate 12V rail or that they mix several 12v to each PCIe.
    Multi-rail is slightly safer, and while they've gotten better with single-rail, it's mostly marketting hype (but to be fair, these are seen on both sides).
    And Seasonic's PSUs, for example, are different 12V-rails in multi-rails, but can be combined to a single.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    No, the actual integrals of it. They make some really strange decisions. They will likely never go back to making outright bad PSUs, but they've really lost their edge. Single Rail is disappointing as well.
    Flextronics is the OEM of the AX1200i, much like the original AX1200. If you want to blame anyone for "strange decisions", it's the OEM, not the brand.

    Personally, i'd rather have 100A/1200W on a single rail and know that it alone can provide power for any setup. Sure, with multi-rail, you can take 1 output from different rails to connect to the system (e.g. 1 connector for each PCIE port on a single card from dual-rail) and split the load between them, but there's really not a whole lot of difference to the end user either way.

    Single rail vs multi-rail has been done to death on enthusiast forums. Along with politics and religion, it's one of the things you don't discuss at the dinner table

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    Back on topic... I'll have to go over things and clean them when the rig is complete lol.


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    Oh, I see. Taking flashy pictures instead of replying to PMs, DV?

    I would post a picture with my GTX680 in the loop, but right now I've got tubing looped across half the case and it looks silly.

    Also, it's now yellow.

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    I spy with my little eye a Raven 02. How's the case treating you mate? The system looks pretty good from where I can see it. :3

    Though I'd be a bit wary of those GTX 670s being so neighborly on one another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkenvalley View Post
    I spy with my little eye a Raven 02. How's the case treating you mate? The system looks pretty good from where I can see it. :3

    Though I'd be a bit wary of those GTX 670s being so neighborly on one another.
    It seems to be the textbook-style SLI/Xfire setup where you have a whole bunch of reference cards stuck right up against each other. But while it looks awesome, I've always wondered how those cards BREATHE...especially in tri/quad setups. And I keep seeing them everywhere too! Especially in those super-folding rigs :S


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    It seems to be the textbook-style SLI/Xfire setup where you have a whole bunch of reference cards stuck right up against each other. But while it looks awesome, I've always wondered how those cards BREATHE...especially in tri/quad setups. And I keep seeing them everywhere too! Especially in those super-folding rigs :S

    When I see stuff like this, I can't imagine why people that can afford that type of set up don't run water cooling through the whole system. I'd imagine 3 cards right up against each other would also cause them to be loud as they try to push the air harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eon Drache View Post
    When I see stuff like this, I can't imagine why people that can afford that type of set up don't run water cooling through the whole system. I'd imagine 3 cards right up against each other would also cause them to be loud as they try to push the air harder.
    perhaps they cant afford it, or perhaps they dont want to watercool,

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    Ordered all the parts for my new computer last week and it should be up and running by tommorow night and I'm super ecited for it! I wasn't swinging for the ultimate PC or anything as I'm on a student budget, but I'm pretty happy with how it ended up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eon Drache View Post
    When I see stuff like this, I can't imagine why people that can afford that type of set up don't run water cooling through the whole system. I'd imagine 3 cards right up against each other would also cause them to be loud as they try to push the air harder.
    Buying waterblocks for all those and getting the tubing/fittings/etc leak-proof is a LOT of time-consuming work, not to mention very expensive - talking total $300+ just for the GPU blocks, another $80-150 for CPU block, $80-150 for pump/res/fittings/tubing, $100-200 for rads...it adds up quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xombo View Post
    Ordered all the parts for my new computer last week and it should be up and running by tommorow night and I'm super ecited for it! I wasn't swinging for the ultimate PC or anything as I'm on a student budget, but I'm pretty happy with how it ended up.

    Case: Coolermaster Elite 335U w/ 500W power supply (great $70 combined deal)
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    So excited considering I'm coming to you currently from a 4 year old laptop Q_Q.
    Always great to see someone making a huge leap in performance onto your own assembled rig, wish you luck all your parts arrive safely and the building goes well

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