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    Quote Originally Posted by FlawlessSoul View Post
    The Corsair Hydro coolers are great for LAN machines. It takes the weight off the CPU and moves it to a spot that is secured to the case.
    I have a passionate disposition for those and any closed loop coolers. Plus after being an officer of my college computer club, I would hate to be associated with the self-proclaimed geniuses... "Omg it is water cooling and way better than yours!" /sneer
    Seriously...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    I have a passionate disposition for those and any closed loop coolers. Plus after being an officer of my college computer club, I would hate to be associated with the self-proclaimed geniuses... "Omg it is water cooling and way better than yours!" /sneer
    Seriously...?
    But of course you could be the cool one to reply with "ha! but it's actually just mediocore compared to the best aircoolers, I'm using it because I LAN a lot and it distributes the weight better around the case and makes it more secure". Can see t-shirts coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghâzh View Post
    But of course you could be the cool one to reply with "ha! but it's actually just mediocore compared to the best aircoolers, I'm using it because I LAN a lot and it distributes the weight better around the case and makes it more secure". Can see t-shirts coming.
    Noooooope. :P

    I <3 my Zalman! It's so big and gorgeous. Not to mention I left the computer club anyways, too much drama and too many folks I couldn't stand to be around for another day.
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    Some nice builds here ill post mine when i have enough posts to toss in some pics or links although TheMadgod can vouch for my system lol got pics on our guild site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    I have a passionate disposition for those and any closed loop coolers. Plus after being an officer of my college computer club, I would hate to be associated with the self-proclaimed geniuses... "Omg it is water cooling and way better than yours!" /sneer
    Seriously...?
    i've noticed a trend to naming:
    presealed units: Liquid Cooling
    custom component loops: Water Cooling

    there is a certain amount of skill needed to actually watercool an entire system, and thus it brings bragging rights, but people are trying to apply that to small presealed units

    however, you do need to stop and think about the perception of presealed units when many long time water coolers are switching to them or air, both Synthaxx and myself have dropped our waterloops in favor of presealed units or heatsinks, and i assume the reason is the same, water is no longer needed and it's too much of a hassle to deal with anymore for just the bragging rights

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    i've noticed a trend to naming:
    presealed units: Liquid Cooling
    custom component loops: Water Cooling

    there is a certain amount of skill needed to actually watercool an entire system, and thus it brings bragging rights, but people are trying to apply that to small presealed units

    however, you do need to stop and think about the perception of presealed units when many long time water coolers are switching to them or air, both Synthaxx and myself have dropped our waterloops in favor of presealed units or heatsinks, and i assume the reason is the same, water is no longer needed and it's too much of a hassle to deal with anymore for just the bragging rights
    It's not that - the guys in the club who have these things get these smirks on their faces and are like "oh yeah but mine is liquid cooling!" >

    It annoys me to all hell, I'm like "it's not real liquid cooling..."

    "So, you don't have it. And it keeps my CPU cool!"

    Meanwhile he's just a guy with a STOCK 3570K on a Sabertooth Z77 board. -.-

    Seriously if you saw the guy I will bet you'd want to punch him square in the face after talking to him for 3 minutes.
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    Isnt it also the fun of tinkering and tweaking of your system, altho that could be a different audiance all together :P And i can imagine it still has some use for GPU's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    i've noticed a trend to naming:
    presealed units: Liquid Cooling
    custom component loops: Water Cooling

    there is a certain amount of skill needed to actually watercool an entire system, and thus it brings bragging rights, but people are trying to apply that to small presealed units

    however, you do need to stop and think about the perception of presealed units when many long time water coolers are switching to them or air, both Synthaxx and myself have dropped our waterloops in favor of presealed units or heatsinks, and i assume the reason is the same, water is no longer needed and it's too much of a hassle to deal with anymore for just the bragging rights
    Have to agree here, a custom loop wasn't easy. I replaced it back with my 212+.
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    Monitor - Samsung 24"SyncMaster T240HD
    Mouse - Razer Naga
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    Case - Cooler Master HAF XM
    Power Supply - LSP 750 pro
    Motherboard - ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
    CPU - AMD FX 8350
    CPU Cooler - Corsair H100
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKT View Post
    Monitor - Samsung 24"SyncMaster T240HD
    Mouse - Razer Naga
    Keyboard - Logitech G110
    Speakers - Creative Inspire 5.1 Digital 5700
    Case - Cooler Master HAF XM
    Power Supply - LSP 750 pro
    Motherboard - ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
    CPU - AMD FX 8350
    CPU Cooler - Corsair H100
    GPU - XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB 256 bit GDDR5
    RAM - Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4x4GB)
    SSD - Samsung 830 256GB
    HDD - Western Digital 500GB
    Would love to see some picture, though I am disappointed in your choice of CPU, mobo (because of what CPU it supports, Asus Sabertooths in general rock though), and mouse.

    An i5-3570K with Asus Z77 Sabertooth would have cost about the same and had superior performance. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701

    A higher quality less failure rate mouse would have served you much better, though I hope the mouse does you well - everyone I know who has owned one however has had it die on them horribly, in whatever way.
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    Eh might as well just list the specs and post pics as soon as i have enough posts lol

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    Mobo: Asus z77 Sabertooth
    RAM: 16gb Corsair Dominator Platinum 1866 mhz
    Gpu: MSI GTX 680 Lightning x2 in SLI
    Psu: Corsair AX1200i
    Sound: Asus Xonar Phoebus
    Cd/dvd: Lg x14 Bluray
    SSD(s): Crucial m4 64gb, Crucial m4 128gb, Corsair Force 3gs 240gb.
    HDD: 3TB Seagate Barracuda

    Monitor: Asus 23.6" 120hz (vg236h)
    Keyboard: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013
    Mouse: Razer Naga Epic
    Game pad: Logitech G13
    Headset: Razer Tiamat 7.1
    Mic: Logitech Usb desk mic

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    Definitely looking forward to some pictures, sounds like a ridiculous rig, though I have some questions about it.

    Any reason you got the i7-3770K?
    Why a blu ray player?
    Hope your Razer products do you better than my friends who have had Razer products, especially the Naga and their headsets.
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    Reasons 3d blu ray player because my monitor supports 3D and for the novelty.

    I7, caught it on sale.

    When ivy-e comes out i plan on upgrading to the extreme edition cpu for better rendering / encoding capabilities since funds aren't really an issue.

    As for razer, well this is my second naga epic and it's workin flawlessly, my tiamat's mic broke so hence the desk mic lol. I had bad luck with my megalodon poopin the bed lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllishaPally View Post
    When ivy-e comes out i plan on upgrading to the extreme edition cpu for better rendering / encoding capabilities since funds aren't really an issue.
    last i checked IB-E has only been confirmed to replace the LGA1567 E7 xeons, it's rumored to be on LGA2011 in Q3 or Q4 of 2013, but intel hasn't said anything about that

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    Hm dang. Hopefully we'll get 8 core lga 2011 on the desktop side. Although hoping for 8 core is probably just wishful thinking lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllishaPally View Post
    Hm dang. Hopefully we'll get 8 core lga 2011 on the desktop side. Although hoping for 8 core is probably just wishful thinking lol
    well, the more cores you add, the lower the overclock you can get, and Ivy already has issues not being able to clock higher than Sandy

    if you are running programs that prefer core count over core speed, then you could build a dual E5-2609 build for less then the cost of a single EE chip

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    The reason ivy has a harder time or cant clock as high is due to ivy's higher temps right? Or is there some limitation on the chip? Hopefully they wont use the crap tim they used on under ivy's lid on iv-e. People have de-lidded ivy and the tim was like rubber cement. O-o

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllishaPally View Post
    The reason ivy has a harder time or cant clock as high is due to ivy's higher temps right? Or is there some limitation on the chip? Hopefully they wont use the crap tim they used on under ivy's lid on iv-e. People have de-lidded ivy and the tim was like rubber cement. O-o
    the smaller process means that gates and transistors are closer together, so its harder for heat to escape in general, the TIM did not help, but it's not the underlying cause, for the most part, the smaller you make the chip, the more concentrated the heat generation is and the harder it is to pull heat away

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    I have a passionate disposition for those and any closed loop coolers. Plus after being an officer of my college computer club, I would hate to be associated with the self-proclaimed geniuses... "Omg it is water cooling and way better than yours!" /sneer
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    Not quite sure what you mean by a "passionate disposition" - that doesn't actually mean anything other than you feel strongly about them. Either you love them to bits or hate them a lot. Going by subsequent comments, I'm leaning towards the latter.

    That's up to you. I've used them (H70 and H100) and can honestly say that they're as good as, or better than, air coolers I've used in the past couple of years. Those include the likes various CM models, Noctua's beastly offerings and a few Scythe coolers.

    Air and Closed Loop coolers are both subject to the same ceiling - ambient temperature. Closed loop coolers offer lower noise, high performance and the absence of a kilogram of metal hanging off your motherboard. Air coolers are easier to install and cheaper.

    I still use my custom loop, because my own machine is still X58 based (and requires more than just CPU cooling). When I upgrade, however, I'll probably be getting a 2x120 closed loop cooler - if I don't just re-use my current loop.

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    Disposition is a negative term. Passionate disposition would mean I very much hate them. It has more to it than just silly performance though. The price is horrid. The stock fans blow. The temps are not much better than my Zalman. Did I mention it is more than DOUBLE the cost of my 9900? Also I dont like the idea of closed loop.... If I'm going to do liquid, I want to be able to take it apart, take care of it, etc.
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