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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Put an air on the bottom then, you'll be shocked how much it helps your temps, because a fan only pulling from a heatsink like that, barely does anything in comparison. Hell you could just switch that fan if you don't want to be running 2.

    Also, more fans taking air out than in, equals, if I recall right, negative pressure, which equals dust. Turn the fans taking air out down to their minimum and the one in to its max to curb this.
    Thanks for the advice. Just to make sure. I should put the extra fan right next to PSU to pull air in? I'll turn the exhaust fans down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trungalung View Post
    Thanks for the advice. Just to make sure. I should put the extra fan right next to PSU to pull air in? I'll turn the exhaust fans down.
    Wait, what? I mean like the extra fan for your heatsink on your CPU itself, if there is one, you should put it on so the heatsink has one fan pushing and one pulling, you'll get the best performance.

    Now if you have one of the many cases that has a fan on the side panel that can pull air in, I would definitely also add that.

    However heat rises, I do not suggest putting your top fans or back fan as intakes, that will screw with stuff, a lot.
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    Oh lol! I got confused and thought you want me to put a fan at the bottom of the case next to the PSU. What you suggest is what I usually do. I was cleaning the case when I took the picture and forgot to put the 2nd fan back on the cooler.

    I do have side fans...but I cannot put a 200 mm on the side because my cooler is too damn huge. Right now, I only have two 120 mm side fans.


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    Ah good stuff! Same you can't fit in your side cooler. =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Typically coolers with a fan doing push have done better than ones doing pull, from what I've seen/read/heard.

    I don't know anyone who swears by their liquid cooling loops having the rads with pull fans only.

    Usually it's push or push+pull.
    a top mounted rad in a Cosmos2 requires pull fans, it make no difference in temps

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    Ah good stuff! Same you can't fit in your side cooler. =/
    When I bought the Phantom case, I was expecting the cooler to fit perfectly since I can mount my HAF 922 side fan without any trouble (and it's supposedly a mid tower case). I will probably buy a window side panel to make it looks nicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyanotical View Post
    a top mounted rad in a Cosmos2 requires pull fans, it make no difference in temps
    In Trungalung's case I would still recommend push because having the heatsink fan and top exhaust fans right next to each other is pointless.

    Also Delt does have a point, even though there isn't a huge difference in temps you'll still see tower coolers with 1 fan set up in push 95% of the time (Hyper212, etc).

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    My first ever build, put it together about two months ago. Cables are still a bit messy but it looks fine with the side panel on so I don't mind. The Noctua fans are moving so slow it's not even blurred in the first picture. :P

    The top 200mm fan makes this clicking sound, drove me mad at first but I got used to it... I did buy a BitFenix spectre pro 200mm to put in there but it doesn't fit, apparently I need to get an Antec Big Boy as it's the only other fan that fits on the 1100. >_>

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    How do you people get your graphics cards to not sag and stay perfectly straight with no support...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    How do you people get your graphics cards to not sag and stay perfectly straight with no support...
    My card has a special support bracket that runs the length of the card and the screws go through it into the case, you can see it at the front of the card. It's only on the 680 version of the CUII cards, ASUS got a lot of complaints about the cards sagging A LOT since they're so heavy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ineko View Post
    My card has a special support bracket that runs the length of the card and the screws go through it into the case, you can see it at the front of the card. It's only on the 680 version of the CUII cards, ASUS got a lot of complaints about the cards sagging A LOT since they're so heavy.
    Well I'll be damned, I didn't even notice that! Smart move Asus, I remember my 580 DCII sagged like hell. Hmm I need to get my hands on one of those brackets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trungalung View Post
    When I bought the Phantom case, I was expecting the cooler to fit perfectly since I can mount my HAF 922 side fan without any trouble (and it's supposedly a mid tower case). I will probably buy a window side panel to make it looks nicer.
    You could try http://www.amazon.co.uk/Xigmatek-XLF...0242774&sr=8-1 (theres some different colours)
    Im using a noctua nh-d14 which is apparently a tiny bit higher than yours at 160mm and that just fits in my case, because the fans only 20mm wide. I had to use screws that didnt come with the fan though, think i used screws from the nh-d14 that werent for my motherboard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    How do you people get your graphics cards to not sag and stay perfectly straight with no support...
    My card doesn't sag, it dangles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    How do you people get your graphics cards to not sag and stay perfectly straight with no support...
    buy an FT02

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltrusDisc View Post
    I don't know anyone who swears by their liquid cooling loops having the rads with pull fans only.

    Usually it's push or push+pull.
    There's no difference between doing Push or Pull. Little difference again by doing Push and Pull, if you have pressure optimised fans.
    Apart from people using LED fans, most I see with custom watercooling are doing it pull. If you want a concrete example, Linus Sebastian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    There's no difference between doing Push or Pull. Little difference again by doing Push and Pull, if you have pressure optimised fans.
    Apart from people using LED fans, most I see with custom watercooling are doing it pull. If you want a concrete example, Linus Sebastian.
    http://youtu.be/UyC3lZ5WFMk

    There's the specific video where linus states it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    How do you people get your graphics cards to not sag and stay perfectly straight with no support...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiaQD0AAMnk @ 11:45 - This might help you out a pci express stopper. Also it depends on the plastic latch on the pci express slots I mean Asus uses better quality and it "raises" the card more than on Gigabyte motherboards.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ineko View Post
    My card has a special support bracket that runs the length of the card and the screws go through it into the case, you can see it at the front of the card. It's only on the 680 version of the CUII cards, ASUS got a lot of complaints about the cards sagging A LOT since they're so heavy.

    Is this a dc2t or DC2O? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    There's no difference between doing Push or Pull. Little difference again by doing Push and Pull, if you have pressure optimised fans.
    Apart from people using LED fans, most I see with custom watercooling are doing it pull. If you want a concrete example, Linus Sebastian.
    I would disagree with this. Push/Pull combo will yield better results even if using a pressure optimized fan in almost every situation.

    See: http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/01/...-testing-v2/3/

    I realize you said little difference but it's normally 2c+ difference which is a pretty decent amount when it comes to watercooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisGOAT View Post
    There's no difference between doing Push or Pull. Little difference again by doing Push and Pull, if you have pressure optimised fans.
    Apart from people using LED fans, most I see with custom watercooling are doing it pull. If you want a concrete example, Linus Sebastian.
    According to Linus Sebastian, Pull is better than push.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Faithh View Post
    According to Linus Sebastian, Pull is better than push.
    But not for performance reasons, only due to the trouble of dust removal/accumulation.


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