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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrops View Post
    Also I read that cheap/low quality liquid coolers might perform even worse than a decent air cooler? Unless you run some sort of cooling so that liquid is lower temp than room ambient temp.
    I'm just gonna take my H60 as example versus the Noctua NH-D14 which is one of the best air cooler available.

    Both run the same temperatures at load.
    The NH-D14 runs a little quieter, but nothing major.
    H60 will take MUCH MUCH less space compared to the NH-D14.
    http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/3360/__4.jpg D-14
    http://www.hd-tecnologia.com/imagene...nstalado-4.jpg H60

    The H60 will cost 49 $ while the NH-D14 cost 74 $.

    AOI takes less space, runs good temperatures & cost less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffie View Post
    I get 70 fps average on singleplayer, switching over to multiplayer I get 110-120 fps most of the time.
    The graph shows a 270x getting 35 fps on singleplayer which doesn't mean anything, BF4 is a multiplayer game
    Also a 760 will easily get 50+ on 1080p in BF4.
    I gotta say those numbers are much more what i was expecting to get, and im still to clock CPU/GPU.

    As for AIO's, afaik they do produce similar performance to a strong air cooler but they look a lot better imo, lets you appreciate more of your build and ill probably incorporate one in my next build

  3. #12703
    Quote Originally Posted by Faithh View Post
    So do I when I see AIO's.
    Nothing wrong with my AIO. Cools it just fine and it looks good.

    One of these days I'll actually build my own loop, but for now I'm to busy and to lazy to actually do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryce View Post
    I cry every time I see a stock cooler in a system.
    NH-D14 is on its way. I ordered the LGA2011 by accident. Stock cooler = better than no cooler.

    If you had read my post, you would have noticed.
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    Yeah, AIO's are more amazing/handy in small build applications though. You can squeeze them in just about every case and combine them with your exhaust fan.

    My newest addition, the AudioEngine D1:

    + AudioQuest Golden Gate RCA
    + AudioQuest Pearl USB

    I know there are better cables than AQ, but they're an affordable step up from standard wires. I gotta say, this is sounding quite divine. The D1 is very smooth sounding, not harsh at all (except for a few occasions, but I understand that's because it needs to be broken in).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Yeah, AIO's are more amazing/handy in small build applications though. You can squeeze them in just about every case and combine them with your exhaust fan.
    Careful with such broad statements, there are plenty bigger AIO cooling that won't fit in smaller cases.

    Nice DAC though, I might invest in one eventually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Notarget View Post
    Careful with such broad statements, there are plenty bigger AIO cooling that won't fit in smaller cases.
    True, true. I meant 120/140mm AIO's, should've been more specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Yeah, AIO's are more amazing/handy in small build applications though. You can squeeze them in just about every case and combine them with your exhaust fan.

    My newest addition, the AudioEngine D1:
    <snip>
    + AudioQuest Golden Gate RCA
    + AudioQuest Pearl USB

    I know there are better cables than AQ, but they're an affordable step up from standard wires. I gotta say, this is sounding quite divine. The D1 is very smooth sounding, not harsh at all (except for a few occasions, but I understand that's because it needs to be broken in).
    AudioEngine D1 buddies! That thing rocks, it's hooked up to my HTPC >.<


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuvial View Post
    AudioEngine D1 buddies!
    Yay!

    /10char

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    Jelly of you both. That D1 is absolutely sexy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryce View Post
    Nothing wrong with my AIO. Cools it just fine and it looks good.

    One of these days I'll actually build my own loop, but for now I'm to busy and to lazy to actually do it.
    The pump alone is louder than a fan. Somewhere in April we're going to see the new NH-D15 coming, should destroy any AIO's. Also since im having it about noctua, it doesnt seem like theyre only bringing a black version for industrial purposes out. Page 2 in this interview with Jakob orsomething: http://www.relaxedtech.com/interview/jakob-dellinger/1
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    Those Audioengines sure look nice.

    Wish more little DACs were made, the more the merrier and the more the prices drop! :P

    Only two issues I can think of with that... unbalanced outputs for speakers and no real headphone amp on it. >_<
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    Sneak peek for tomorrow.

    (No seriously, the lighting is horrible during the evenings in Greenland, I have to crank up my camera's ISO to get a visible picture)

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    @Cheezus Love the R4, just a great all around case.
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  15. #12715
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesticii View Post
    Crysis 2 or 3, Battlefield 3 or 4, Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3.. just a few new games. None of those you can play >50 fps on ultra.
    Just built a new system with an I5-4670 and an MSI GTX 760 TF OC playing crysis 2 with over 60 FPS Battlefield 3 aswell, 4 with 60 FPS and now and then a drop till 40-35, far cry 3 with 60 fps and sometimes a drop to 45, WoW with ~120 in quiet places and 60-55 in org at peak houres. Played AC4:BF aswell, this was the first game i couldn't max everything without going to 30 FPS. Rest everything on ultra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravewyrm View Post
    @Cheezus Love the R4, just a great all around case.
    No spoiler but it's not about the R4.
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    So my 290 arrived last week:



    I went to install it and...



    Damn, rookie mistake. Fast forward to yesterday morning and this arrived from Amazon:



    After the case swap:



    Cable management is a lot easier in this thing so I tried to keep it as clean as I could:




    I added some AF 120 LEDs in the top to try and add some subtle lighting, might be a bit too subtle, might try and sort something else out another time:



    Closed up and powered on:



    Since this card allows me to use 4 monitors I brought the monitor I replaced with the 27" out of retirement, shot of the full setup:



    Night shot:



    And in case someone calls me out on it, yes the monitor on the top right is upside down and yes that is intentional (this way the viewing angle is better and the power button is on top instead of on the monitor below it).

    For now the PC is kind of hidden away between the desk and the bed so not taking advantage of the window and such, but I have a plan in mind to sort out a better desk that should sort that out and hopefully won't take too long to happen.

    (sorry for cell phone quality pictures, but I don't often need a camera so that is the best I have.)
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    Nice upgrades, 750D? Looks good (and big)

    Time to update your signature.
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    I like the looks of that 750D.. Makes my R4 feel .. inadequate ... and im sure there are a few xCoin miners that are jelly of that card. Anyone have any insight as to why miners are all over the AMD cards, and not nVidia ones (from what I've gathered so far, just learning about the whole coin mining thing, as I don't pay much mind to.. "Fads").
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gravewyrm View Post
    I like the looks of that 750D.. Makes my R4 feel .. inadequate ... and im sure there are a few xCoin miners that are jelly of that card. Anyone have any insight as to why miners are all over the AMD cards, and not nVidia ones (from what I've gathered so far, just learning about the whole coin mining thing, as I don't pay much mind to.. "Fads").
    In short Nvidia cards don't yield anywhere near the same as equivalent AMD card.
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