Drop engineering or keep it?

[Nabstar]

I recently have dropped inscription to pick up engineering. Even with the nerfs, I feel that engineering is still the most fun profession. Now of course for a min/max raid prof you would want to use BS/JC. However people are talking about 71 stat vs a 81 stat or something along those lines. At the end of the day skill will always play a bigger part in your performance over stats. I would keep engineering and enjoy the fun that it brings to world of warcraft.

[Anjerith]

Also, those new backfires are awesome!! *Thats* part of the appeal of engineering. It also explains what happened to me in last nights LK fight so thats awesome too! :'l

[Pjammiez]

I enjoy engineering for the teleports, rocket boosts, portable bank, vendor and mailbox. That's more fun than being able to make your own gems, anyway.

Have to agree with this.

[Deleted]

Engineering is more fun, Also, You can make weaponary and ammunition, so we got a moneymaking method. That's a change. Others got nice extra's but we got moneymaking.

though i feel that blizzard is making everything the same, i mean, nothing unique, all the spells, talents, Things that used to be special, others get it too.

[Ghazter]

Keep engineering, mon.

[Deleted]

I used to be a herbalism / alchemy guy myself, and around level 50 got bored, especially of alchemy. Moved on to mining / engineering and had plenty of fun. But i can completely understand that these days there's not that much cool stuff for us engies. The Northrend teleporter will soon be redundant, ammo is gone and the motorbike can be bought on the AH if you're really that fussed. However Northrend mote farming can make some pretty good money when ran alongside mining, let's hope blizz hasn't got bored of motes in cata...

[Wawfuls]

Engineering is more fun, Also, You can make weaponary and ammunition, so we got a moneymaking method. That's a change. Others got nice extra's but we got moneymaking.

though i feel that blizzard is making everything the same, i mean, nothing unique, all the spells, talents, Things that used to be special, others get it too.

Ammo?

OT Engineering all day.

[Deleted]

Ammo?

OT Engineering all day.

Yes, Bullets and arrows. And you can make Bows and Guns.

[Wawfuls]

Yes, Bullets and arrows. And you can make Bows and Guns.

Last I checked ammo isn't used anymore.

[Deleted]

Engineering is more fun, Also, You can make weaponary and ammunition, so we got a moneymaking method. That's a change. Others got nice extra's but we got moneymaking.

though i feel that blizzard is making everything the same, i mean, nothing unique, all the spells, talents, Things that used to be special, others get it too.

Have you ever been a engineer? Making guns/bows has never been a big moneymaker... And ammo was removed from the game, so no...

[AedanWolfe]

wow, that painful shock effect is a MAJOR FU from blizzard, its literally a giant middle finger to all those that use the tinker effects in any progression content at all. I do not feel i am overreacting either.

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Also, those new backfires are awesome!! *Thats* part of the appeal of engineering. It also explains what happened to me in last nights LK fight so thats awesome too! :'l

your an idtiot, im sorry but its true. nobody will use these tinkers in PVE content because they will be a detriment to progression. at best the painful shock could be used by a tank.

[Deleted]

Keep enginering because it's the most fun (and probably will be) profession since vanila, jc tailoring etc. are just boring professions that will only affect your stats a bit, there's no pure fun aspect there

[Arrelliana]

The biggest complaint I am seeing about engineering post patch is that the misfires from rocket boots are way up...and potentially worse than the benefit in certain raid encounters (unbound plague/defiles are a couple mechanics that come to mind). The ability to stack the tinker benefits with enchants was a great boon to engineering and the epic helm with cogwheels for the first tier is pretty awesome but will probably be replaced later on. My advice is always pick a profession you enjoy since most of the raid benefits are equalized across the non-gathering professions.

[tibben]

As I understood, enchants and engi stuff stacks... So I don't give up an enchant to have a parachute on my cloak? Just an example...

The stats on all the engineering tinkers have been removed. The only raid benefit you get from having engineering (especially as a DPS) is the tinker on gloves which is just plain crap compared to other professions. You can craft a helm with Cogwheel sockets and place your own stats in those sockets, but once you start doing heroic raids you won't have any use for the crafted helm and whatever secondary stats you added to it with the Cogwheel sockets will no longer apply.

That means that at the 372 level the only engineering benefit equates to about 40 dps on average if you use it every time it's off CD and you get the killing blow on the boss with it. So realistically you'd be looking at more like a 25-30 dps increase for having Engineering. That's completely useless. I'd much rather take a profession where I can get a static stat increase that could actually make some difference in my DPS vs. Engineering with everything backfiring on me and almost no impact at all on my dps output.

You also can't use the "good" engineering perks in rated BGs so PvPers aren't going to want to use it either.

TL;DR - if you want to be competitive in PvE or PvP, drop engineering and pick up something useful

[Hoddie]

How is it fun? Seriously the only fun thing in this profession is the flyingmount and maaaybeee the teleporters... oh wait still 4 hour cooldown. oh wait usually nothing happends anymore... Useless, no fun either.

Nitroboosters explode for most people in 9 of 10 uses since 4.03a and for some retarded reason they are attatched to the belt... like most the other new things, which appear quite useless to me alltogether anyway. So i would keep the boosters. No need to skill any further. Same with glasses as the TC said; Judging from the stats they will be thrown out with the first raiditem. They arent even worth beeing made. And ofcause they are those pets. Dont get me wrong, i like those pets, even if they are just shrinked versions of existing npcs that are just there to make another level of this idiotic achievment... but i dont need engineering just for that.

I miss a new teleporter that actually has some malfunctions or something atleast slightly creative, silly or fun like the transporters many patches ago or maybe a new exklusive mount, or... i dont know... What a about a device that can like... cloak you as a selected mob for 5 minutes or so, so you can walk around unattacked and mine or something? That would be the kind of stuff engineering would be good to. Not the 2032834th Pet...

I think about dropping this profession after three years of having it. If they dont provide the promissed things (they indeed promissed to go back to those fun-things) instead of throwing items like bows at me i cant even use. I most likely become just another jewelcrafter. So i can atleast swim in tons of gold while i QQ if they sell gems for points again.

Sorry didn't read past this post. As Janice might have said. Oh. My. God. Get a grip fella! Engineering is lots of fun if you take the time to create and use some of your stuff. An exploding sheep vs the Lich King? Bombs in Arathi Basin, Nitro boosting your way out of trouble with a parachute. Stunning spellcasters with bombs so you can escape or kill them. You probably don't create the fun items because you're not actually looking for fun unless it's free and comes with no effort, in which case you cannot complain about it not being fun. And FYI engineering makes an absolute fortune for me at the AH and I've never sold a single bike. Easily 100k+ just from engineering within the last 12 months alone.

The only point you made which I can agree on is that it makes less sense to have the nitro boost on the belt than on the feet. And I'd much rather the nitro malfunctions a lot than not at all which is what we had for a long time. I can't understand why you're whining about the malfunctions here but in your next paragraph asking for more of them! Finally, if you think the Gadgetzan or Winterspring portal on a 4-hour cooldown won't be of any use in Cataclysm, I can only imagine you don't know much about the expansion.

[Lebeau]

Finally, if you think the Gadgetzan or Winterspring portal on a 4-hour cooldown won't be of any use in Cataclysm, I can only imagine you don't know much about the expansion.

Honestly you don't know anything about Cataclysm.

[Hoddie]

Honestly you don't know anything about Cataclysm.

Maybe you're right. Only been in beta since the start...

Yes there are portals to the new zones in SW and Org, and your hearth is on a 30 min cooldown, but the same was true in Wrath (at least towards the end) and many people still got plenty use out of their Kirin Tor rings. Hearth off CD and you need to get to MH? No problem, you have a teleporter that will get you to within a minute of there.

[Miseration]

I'd keep it, we get cogs and spinwheels which are used as new gems for ENG. I'd keep. I know I will on my warr.

[Ealyssa]

I've never sold a single bike. Easily 100k+ just from engineering within the last 12 months alone.

I'm pretty sure that's BS. Even if it's not (100k without bike ?), is that supposed to be a lot ? I was doing 22-25k month with inscription (before market nerf) and 10-15k month with JC (not a big farmer, could have made more) this year.

I'm absolutly not saying that engenering is bad, I will probably switch my main from JC-mining to JC-Eng at 85. But clearly not for gold making.

[Lebeau]

Maybe you're right. Only been in beta since the start...

Yes there are portals to the new zones in SW and Org, and your hearth is on a 30 min cooldown, but the same was true in Wrath (at least towards the end) and many people still got plenty use out of their Kirin Tor rings. Hearth off CD and you need to get to MH? No problem, you have a teleporter that will get you to within a minute of there.

I was in the F&F Alpha since day 1. I also know that the Cloak of Coordination, Wrap of Unity, and Shroud of Cooperation all teleport you to org on with a 2, 4, and 8 hour cooldown respectively (yet they don't share cooldowns). Three easily attainable guild rep rewards.

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