Why does this thread keep getting updated...it's just full of useless flames from people who don't understand each other.
And your "sources" for the death penalty? What a joke. His lawyers trying to hype up the rhetoric so Assange gets sympathy from the world and a lucky break. Citing very, very few people in isolated incidents who were pissed off? All your doing is trying to get this stupid thread's post count up. No better than some dumbass news station trying to reel people in.
And a million people have NOT died in Iraq. A lot of people? yes. A million? No. Check your facts. You can hate the US for its reasons for invading (which were pretty much BS) but don't pull some bullshit statistics out of your ass to do it.
And on the whole "World Police" discussion, our foreign policy sucks. Or rather, it has sucked, I'm hoping people have learned from this and it will get better. But, someone had a quote from a different thread, "It's not that the US is good, it's that there's a lot of other people who are fucking terrible", and I really think that sums it up. People need to take off the blinders and realize what we've been doing isn't good for anyone; but also realize there are some really sick, power hungry people out there who need to be taken care of.
oh and edit: Hey moderator who made this thread: LOCK IT! Or some moderator who has some sense lock it!
And if terrorists attacked us, what country would we attack? What country do a terrorist come from?
You are perfectly correct that its flawed however it doesnt make it less logic. Mankind usually let emotions impact on their decisionmaking, both 9/11 event and the wars are proof of that.
Iraq is currently the most geo-strategic position on the globe, and will remain so for quite a while. This is because of the oil reserves. The USA, and in fact, the rest of the world run on oil. Eventually, the world will have to make the transition to alternative energy sources. By securing the largest remaining oil reserves in the world, we are buying ourselves not only more time to make that transition, but a more comfortable and seamless transition as well.
Again, I'm sensitive to Iraq's plight, but I can also understand why this chain of events is important to this globalized society's immediate future.
How many americans care tho?
Hell, half US get their news from FOX wich should say alot of how much the average american get to see of noncensored, unbiased news.
I didnt know if to cry or not when I saw CNN's coverage of when the wikileak of the helicopter gunship murders got leaked.
"Due to nature of the.. blabla... not show the rest" <- cut just before the soilders started laughing "I got them", "Did you see that? hahaha"...
So much for US media..
Hmm, here are a couple fun facts:
For starters, during the late 1800s the highest rate of immigration into the US was in fact from Sweden. It is said that as much as 10-15% of your country's population immigrated here. Seems like we have a little Swede in our heinous bodies.
During WWII Sweden was repeatedly criticized for their lack of effort to resist the Nazi forces. Throughout the war, Sweden supplied various materials such as steel and machined parts to Germany. Both critiques inside and outside your country continually said Sweden was too easily "pushed over" by the Nazis and claimed their weak efforts to help the Jewish population during the later years of the war was merely to appease these critiques.
You also mention the US as being the world police and we have in fact brought our tragedies upon ourselves. Would it surprise you to know that although Sweden claims to be non-aligned militarily they have a long history of participating in dozens of international military operations such as: Afghanistan, Kosovo, Bosnia, and individual operations through-out the Middle East?
Quite odd of you to judge the blood on somebody else's hands when that blood is in fact on your own as well.
Shall I go on?
Last edited by Hexian; 2011-01-13 at 03:42 AM.
And, there is a very distinct difference between the two; One was completely intentional, the other is collateral. And it's not like the US carpet bombed every city in Iraq. MOST of the deaths there are Iraqis killing other Iraqis. It's just the US's fault that the situation where that could happen happened.
Threads dead baby Threads dead (cue pulp fiction music).