Trouble is with ret in a pvp scenario is the ramp up time is too big to kill anything without blowing all our cooldowns.
Sure we can do very well vs most classes however thats blowing Zeal + Wings + Inquisition And 'praying' (like a true paladin) for an exorcism proc and Mastery procs for back to back TVs
Holy i found was fine to level with and in terms of survivability it was obviously the best, (ret still killed faster though I found from 83+, and the +300% talent for increased holy light was nice after killing a pack of 2 - 3 mobs), Pvp wise holy was not to bad, however pretty dismal @ 85 in offensive situations. Mages still continually bully me beacuse im a pally and they are OP atm.
Holy however i must say extremly powerful in dungeons. Ive yet to ret spec in a 5 man ( Im not waiting that long for a queue )
What I would like to know from anyone in the community is how ret performs in heroics?