10/25 man drops: did I miss yet another change?

[Vespers]

My understanding going into Cata was that 10 and 25 man drops the exact same gear; just more of it in 25 mans however, Im seeing items listed as 25 man only drop or 10 man only drop, the same way drops worked before. Did this get changed/reverted back to the old style now? I didnt see any new mention of this?

[Deleted]

Would you mind providing an example of these listings? Perhaps it's just that there is not enough data yet (on for example wowhead), so that it only "knows" about a few drops in 10 man, and a few others in 25 man?

[calinass]

I was pretty sure that both 10m and 25m dropped the same gear (lets call it i333) and heroic 10m and 25m dropped the same gear just with upped stats (i346 lets call it).

[Jonisawsom]

I was pretty sure that both 10m and 25m dropped the same gear (lets call it i333) and heroic 10m and 25m dropped the same gear just with upped stats (i346 lets call it).

No, 10 and 25 man raids drop the exact same items and ilevel. That is 359 on normal and 372 on heroic (I believe). Also 25 man does not drop more gear per person, it's the same ratio as 10 mans. That's 1 piece per 5 people per boss. So 10 man bosses drop 2 items and 25 man bosses drop 5 items. The one difference is that 10 man bosses give less Valor Points than 25 man bosses.

[Buckwald]

Baradin Hold - http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5600 - Argaloth drops 62 possible items, no breakdown of 10 or 25.

The Bastion of Twilight - http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5334 - 10 man drops 21 different items. 25 man drops 24 different items
Some items only avaible to 10s and some only available to 25s

Blackwing Descent - http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5094 - 10 man drops 25 different items. 25 man drops 28 different items
Some items only avaible to 10s and some only available to 25s

Throne of the Four Winds - http://www.wowhead.com/zone=5638 - Al'Akir drops 11 different items no difference between 10 or 25

25s do seem to have a larger item pool.

[Deleted]

Since Cata beta, wowhead should not be trusted too much: several bugs and a not up to date db.

[Azranas]

The database on wowhead is not up to date, the drops are exactly the same in 10 and 25 man with each boss dropping 1 piece of loot per 5 players.
2 in 10man, 5 in 25man.

[frester]

as ppl pointed out wowhead is not up to date as hardly anyone killed those boses