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  1. #41
    thx, great job!
    Nice to see that some of my assumtions are now backed with actual numbers

    I always give it to our resto, which is great when he pre hots the tank in a fight and before it even starts im going in with 3 Stacks!

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by flzk View Post
    i noticed this too, one buff has the real buff icon and the other one is some kind of green egg but i dont know how this happened
    I've noticed I only seem to get the egg when I place it on a healer, but it still doesn't appear all the time.

    Looking at the spellpage on wowhead.

    I think my money is on it just being a mistake.
    Last edited by p75369; 2010-12-22 at 12:11 PM.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by p75369 View Post
    I've noticed I only seem to get the egg when I place it on a healer, but it still doesn't appear all the time.
    I got the 'egg' after putting it on a Spriest, but as well after putting it on a Resto Druid. Sometimes I only get the egg, and not the 'real' buff, most times I get the real buff and sometimes both buffs appear.

    On a side-note:
    Is Hellfire considered a DoT? I read somewhere (Wowhead I think) that Drain Soul and Drain Life were considered a DoT, and since both Hellfire and Drain Life are channeled...

  4. #44
    o.O i wish we never got this spell

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    It's a mistake.

    I will test AOE tonight, but as of right now my guess is that AOE does not count as a periodic effect. Mind Sear for sure does not proc it.

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  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by gherkin View Post
    Using Dark Intent on a Lock as a Lock means that you are a moron.

    The 3% Haste buff stacks.
    The 9% Damage/Healing buff does not.

    Therefore, if you cast Dark Intent on a Warlock who cast Dark Intent on you, you each get 6% Haste (12% total) and 9% Damage/Healing (18% total). However, if you each cast Dark Intent on a non Warlock, The Raid gets 12% Haste and 36% Damage/Healing.

    I have this data readily available and did not post it because it would be used to compare against non-warlocks, and you can't do this. You would have to compare it to TWO non-warlocks and sadly not everyone who reads this post will understand that.

    For those of you curious, for Warlocks swapping Dark Intent to be viable your group must have all Holy Paladin Healers, a Warrior tank who does not use Deep Wounds or Rend, and not have any Priests, Mages, Druids, Death Knights, Rogues, Elemental Shamans, and non-BM Hunters. Basically a group with zero chance of success against anything of moderate difficulty.

    So I hope you understand why I'm reluctant to post that information.
    as youre data is going to be used in 5m settings aswell i just think it where "funny" not to mention it at all while having holy paladins in there,

    personaly i use it most on a resto druid or shaman in raids. and rogues whith 10% crit, and its not that uncomon for disc priests not to use renew

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    I found a small glitch where you put it on the felgaurd mount up enter a raid the putting it on a spriest so the priest and my pet both get the buff amd can get up to three stacks each which for the pet is nice with his bro storm

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    Good to know, thanks

    ---------- Post added 2010-12-24 at 10:04 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by pieki View Post
    as youre data is going to be used in 5m settings aswell i just think it where "funny" not to mention it at all while having holy paladins in there,

    personaly i use it most on a resto druid or shaman in raids. and rogues whith 10% crit, and its not that uncomon for disc priests not to use renew
    Ah, this better explains your intent. I'm sorry if I came off rudely, I want to make sure that people are not skipping the raid for the benefit of themselves. I will see what I can do.

    ---------- Post added 2010-12-24 at 12:14 PM ----------

    MASSIVE UPDATES:
    1) Much more precise calculations, including a higher damage gain from the warlock
    2) I was incorrectly calculating the uptime for players with low numbers of ticks (Unholy DKs), this has been resolved.
    3) Warriors removed due to pathetic dps gains.
    4) Text fixes based on feedback from people here.

    Rankings basically unchanged.

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  9. #49
    Thank you very much for this! I've been wondering who was best to use Dark Intent on, then stumbled upon this lol great guide

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    Tell your friends! lol

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  11. #51
    Last night I had Dark Intent on myself and pet -was solo- and changed spec, I found that I had the haste and 9% extra dmg on me and a extra Dark Intent to cast!

    It takes the game a while to recognize and adjust this. I actually clicked it off so the haste buff was gone but the x3 stacks persisted. I even logged out and back again and the x3 buff persisted.

    This is a clear bug, but for those looking for every edge, before you pull that boss port and respec with Dark Intent up and return to the raid, put DI on whoever you want and keep the extra damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cempa View Post
    Last night I had Dark Intent on myself and pet -was solo- and changed spec, I found that I had the haste and 9% extra dmg on me and a extra Dark Intent to cast!

    It takes the game a while to recognize and adjust this. I actually clicked it off so the haste buff was gone but the x3 stacks persisted. I even logged out and back again and the x3 buff persisted.

    This is a clear bug, but for those looking for every edge, before you pull that boss port and respec with Dark Intent up and return to the raid, put DI on whoever you want and keep the extra damage.
    Told ya but with pets

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    Did these calculations take into account the gains from buffing a hunter?
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  14. #54
    I know simcraft suports DI but its there a way to tell Simcraft to simulate a lets say a Shadowpriest with DI buff and 100% uptime.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellfury View Post
    I know simcraft suports DI but its there a way to tell Simcraft to simulate a lets say a Shadowpriest with DI buff and 100% uptime.

    Thanks
    There is a way you can do it yourself with any profile you run. Below is an example of figuring out a Shadow Priests DPS gain with 100% uptime of Dark Intent and in 372 BIS gear:

    Simcraft results with and without the added 3% haste:

    24510 DPS with 3% Dark Intent Haste
    23914 DPS without 3% Dark Intent Haste
    596 DPS gain from haste component*

    *Gained by discovering the haste rating needed for 3% more haste:
    (128.5701 rating for 1% haste @ 85) x 3 = additional 386 haste needed for 3% haste
    I then added 386 haste rating to a piece of gear to give me an additional 3% haste to run the sim

    Breaking down the DOT damage:

    24510 * 74.4% = 18970.74*
    18970.74 * 1.09 = 20678.1066
    20678.1066 - 18970.74 = 1707.366
    1707.366 DPS gained from DOT effect

    *74.4% of damage from DOTs as per simcraft calculations
    This also assumes 100% up time of the buff on myself

    1707.366 + 596 = 2303.3667 total DPS gain from Dark Intent

    2303.3667 DPS gain /23914 original DPS without Dark Intent = 9.6% DPS gain overall

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    Thanks for the math and explanation, I was wondering more about a line you could put into the simcraft config to simulate that using DI haste and dot buffs.

  17. #57
    Awesome, thanks for posting this.

    I was getting tired of asking - "Who wants my Dark Intent?"

    (Although hearing them fight over it was fun.)

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    I got some report of a SP in my guild saying he's getting stacks both from his dots, and from the crit ticks of vampiric touch which count as crit heals somehow, giving him 18% instead of 9%. Probably worth investigating further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihir View Post
    I got some report of a SP in my guild saying he's getting stacks both from his dots, and from the crit ticks of vampiric touch which count as crit heals somehow, giving him 18% instead of 9%. Probably worth investigating further.
    I too have noticed two stacks of the +DoT buff apearing occasionally, but it has not happened enough for me to pin it down, but it my initial suspicion was healing crits and damage crits actually applying separate stacks.

  20. #60
    Hello

    I know when there are warlocks you should not swap DI.
    But is it also wrong to have 2 warlocks using DI on the same person lets say the shadowpriest in your raid?

    sorry if this already answered couldn,t find it

    Dotti

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