Apart from evocation and mana gems, does frost have a way to claw back mana?
Just a suggestion, but I think the OP should start out with an "introduction" section that just goes over some basic information. For example...
"Welcome to the frost pve guide...blah blah blah....
Frost is a interesting spec blah blah blah....with a interesting rotation blah blah blah....
It can pull X amount of dps in BiS gear. Compared to the other mage specs it fits in right here...blah blah blah..."
Just something short and informative. It simply starts out by telling the reader what spells to use and how to gear. A little introduction might spark people's interest if they notice "Oh....it says here that Frost ISN'T the worst DPS spec in the game! Who knew? I wanna give it a go! I'll read on and learn more about Frost!"
After seeing the hundreds of posters who have that mindset yesterday...I think it'd be a good idea. T_T
I have recently created an account here on MMO-C due to some transmogrification questions.
However, for a long time I have been thinking of creating an account merely to say thanks to Kuni and the rest of the frost lords in here. Unfortunatly I had to bench my mage in the beginning of Cataclysm in order to reroll a resto druid (we've been having terrible luck with finding decent healers for our 10-man roster) in order to make sure we had the healers we needed in this xpac.
Anyway, due to real life time constraints, I have not been playing my mage as much as I would like to (stuck in 360'ish ilvl gear), but I have always hoped for the day that frost became a viable PvE spec, just figures that it happens when I decide to reroll
This thread really inspired me and gave me the help I needed to improve myself whenever I find myself playing my mage, so thank you for that.
I really find the frost community here admirable, despite the shitstorms we usaully get for playing a "sub-optimal spec" there are some people showing that frost indeed is viable - and do so in a proper manner. But, this post was merely meant as a pad on the back for some of the hard work going into simcrafting and so on, at least it helps people like me out
And who knows, some day I might get a chance to revive the mage and compete with some of you
Hello expert Frost mages - just the other day i stopped being stubborn and playing fire in t12 (except for rhyolith/alysrazor... just no idea if i should be speccing frost for rhyolith as well?) and was inspired by this guide to spec frost for pve . (I absolutely loathe arcane, i don't know why.. ) And i come here to get a "verification check" if i'm doing things right. My armory (can't post links yet) is eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/shadowsong/Iraya/advanced.
Here's our latest WOL - (sadly only Shannox/Rhyolith heroic attempt) worldoflogs.com/reports/5rpj10iwnddnuhiv/sum/damageDone/?s=10784&e=11184
I must say i enjoy the spec very much, but i have a bit of issues occasionally to get decent dps; especially on shannox for raids when i have to chase the dog. - more in 5-man's then in raids tho, in raids i do acceptable dps/damage usually.
I've read through your guide for the most part, and i'm just looking for tips here and there or if i'm doing something completely wrong, i'd love to hear about it .
(Btw Kuni, awesome job on the guide, very understandable and a good read )
Think you linked the wrong log as you linked a log of Kuni :P You also need to change your crit to get 100 % crit use this site for that
Wops; had the wrong copy/paste >_> Apologies! worldoflogs.com/reports/wtp0lmabhhs1bj8h/ and thx for that link
a log from my last shannox so you can compare if you want etc (When I compared quickly, you can easily see that my frostfire bolt useage is alot higher then yours, dunno why yours is so low.. just spam it when it procs!)
Dont use ice lance unless youre moving.
Last edited by Kimpan; 2011-09-12 at 09:38 AM.
Hmm; Thanks for that! According to the site you linked earlier it seems i'm at the shatter crit cap just by changing glyphs; a little over even. And thanks for the WoL! Very helpful all
About the "Dont use ice lance unless youre moving."; I was under the impression that it was on a higher priority then frostbolt if you got fingers of frost up?
Last edited by zjadow; 2011-09-12 at 10:46 AM.
atm i am at the work and cant run sims so i figured i should ask maybe someone was trying to look into this:
at some fights with AOE e.t.c. its hard to keep molten armor up all the time so we are forced to switch to mage armor. so i wonder when reforging
it would be better to aim to soft critt cap w/o molten armor? or just assume i should be using molten armor and just aim at 17% critt (my personal soft critt cap,
i am at 18% atm though).
because from recent updtates as far as i understand now its considering optimal to sit with molten armor up all the time and use evocation( before it was sitting with molten armor untill like 10% mana and then just switch to mage armor untill fight ends).
I have updated http://opendevelop.fr/shatter/Shatter.html with two new options that were missing :
- Worgen racial 1%
- Alchemist profession ~0,136% thanks to the 80 intellect added (80 * 1.05 * 1.05 / 648.91)
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The best technical way to use ice lance is sitting on the last charge of fingers of frost until it has 1 second left, or when moving. Actual damage differences are fairly minor, and if you end up munching or losing I believe it is 9 charges over a 5 minute fight, it's a DPS loss.
I'm still of the belief that reforging for shatter cap and using glyph of frostbolt is the higher DPS gain, as the math supports that. But to each their own. If GoMA works for you better, then use it.