Kuni's Frost Mage PVE Guide (Cataclysm)

[Urmydinner]

Why isn't this sticky?

[Kuni Zyrekai]

Why isn't this sticky?

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...FORE-POSTING**

[Zaive]

Hello Ladies and Gents.
Gonna pop my post cherry. Kuni, great guide. You've inspired me to try frost again.

Played frost on the first 6 in Dragon Soul this week on heroic. I gotta say, it felt a little weak. But, I am WAY out of practice. And I feel there is a lot of room for improvement. Here are logs for everything but Yorsahj. Someone didn't upload for that fight. I died on Ultraxion. Wasn't paying attention and died to Fading Light D=.

Logs for this week:
(wont let me post link) Black Dragonflight- <subpar> 3/13 raid.

We need more frost mage parses people!
Maybe I'll try Spine and Madness this next week as frost.

I notice some weirdness with Icy Veins cd not reducing with 4pc from time to time. Anyone else get that? Tricks to avoiding it?

[Gamdwelf]

you might be poping IV before IV has actually fallen off so that would make it count as though you had 0 stacks of stolen time, leaving the CD at 2.4 min. Its happened to me, just make sure you do it at 8 or more after IV has fallen off, you should have no problem.

[Zaive]

you might be poping IV before IV has actually fallen off so that would make it count as though you had 0 stacks of stolen time, leaving the CD at 2.4 min. Its happened to me, just make sure you do it at 8 or more after IV has fallen off, you should have no problem.

Thanks for the feed back sir!
I was missing a power aura for Icy Veins, so that was probably the case!

[LaplaceNoMa]

Zumzumzum's calculator is 404'd.

[huth]

Good news everyone: 40y Frostbolts! That also hit for roughly 20% more than on live.

[Bombkirby]

And a glyph giving us 3 charges of FoF!

[Deleted]

plus cleaving icelances (glyphed obv) if my eyes didn't deceive me!

[huth]

They didn't.

I have to say i don't particularly like the mechanic of Frost Bomb, though, not to mention that Nether Tempest is a hell of a lot funnier to watch(every tick an Arcane Missile arcs from the target towards the secondary target... and it ticks every second).
Also a bit dissapoint mages didn't get anything like the Shadowbolt glyph(reduces damage per bolt to 1/3, but tripples the number of bolts per cast plus they now launch from their back and robotech towards the target).

[Kuni Zyrekai]

Good news everyone: 40y Frostbolts! That also hit for roughly 20% more than on live.

Thank fucking god. Am I to assume the other frost spells got the same treatment?

Edit: Apparently so. I'm glad range limits aren't "flavour" anymore. Is it just me or is lance back up to x3?

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I have to say i don't particularly like the mechanic of Frost Bomb

It won't work as is. Haste dumping the cooldown means with certain procs/spell combinations we'll end up doing nothing but spamming frost bomb. Nether tempest seems much better, as you stated.

[huth]

Thank fucking god. Am I to assume the other frost spells got the same treatment?

Edit: Apparently so. I'm glad range limits aren't "flavour" anymore. Is it just me or is lance back up to x3?

Yeah, i noticed that too. When i got a 1.000.000 hit with it(oops). To bad it was just a dummy and my old live AB run out soon after. Was a fun ten minutes of everything hitting for more than even tanks have in health, though.

Frozen Orb brings back D2 memories. Not casting DF as a damage spell will take some getting used to.

Oh, and the 6 Mastery penalty appears to be gone. And Freeze still grants 2 FoF charges, but it's part of Freeze's tooltip now.

[Kuni Zyrekai]

Oh, and the 6 Mastery penalty appears to be gone. And Freeze still grants 2 FoF charges, but it's part of Freeze's tooltip now.

Waiiiiiiiiiiit, what? We have our 20% base again? Second part is sexy, but 20% base confirmed returns?

[huth]

Apparently. My char pane lists my Mastery as 14.94 (8.00 + 6.94) and the total bonus as 37%, whereas i only get ~24% on live and am pretty sure that i don't even break 10 mastery. That's with no armor active, so it's not from Mage Armor, either.

[Kuni Zyrekai]

Apparently. My char pane lists my Mastery as 14.94 (8.00 + 6.94) and the total bonus as 37%, whereas i only get ~24% on live and am pretty sure that i don't even break 10 mastery. That's with no armor active, so it's not from Mage Armor, either.

Holy balls. That's 45% mastery from base, mastery buff and mage armour. And now triple damage lances are back? Blizz... Don't get our hopes up here.

[Vinavi]

I desperately want to play Frost viably =<.

[Deleted]

I really need to learn the frost spec better before MoP hits, thanks for the guide =)

[Bombkirby]

I really need to learn the frost spec better before MoP hits, thanks for the guide =)

Well its not going to be EXACTLY the same so don't practice toooo hard.

[Deleted]

Apparently. My char pane lists my Mastery as 14.94 (8.00 + 6.94) and the total bonus as 37%, whereas i only get ~24% on live and am pretty sure that i don't even break 10 mastery. That's with no armor active, so it's not from Mage Armor, either.

Can confirm, on live I have 6.19 mastery and the tooltip says 15% increased damage, whereas on beta I have 12.19 mastery and 30% damage. Does that mean mastery will be better than haste now?

[huth]

It shouldn't really change the value of mastery. We just get more of it baseline.