Updated with some calculations. Please tell me if it's really off.
Darkmoon Card Tsunami looks insanely good.
With the change to Mandala of Stirring Patterns (it procs INT instead of mastery) will this trinket be better than Witching Hourglass? (Sorry can't link) Although holy concentration is nerfed, with +1920 int procced, and shadowfiend (and hymn of hope if possible) used, it will be still very strong for regen. I cant prove it with math, but i would guess that only Tsunami and the valor trinkets are better than Mandala pre-raid with this change.
i play both a disc priest and a resto shaman. since mana tide is now raid wide(4.0.6), i would use the best proc trinket and the best on use trinket. if you can time the on use with a mana tide you get WAY more out of it.
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Im playing as Disc and I noticed a big diffrence in Mana issues bettewen Holy and Disc as both a Tank / Raid healer. As Holy for Raid healing I can last maybe 2mins before I start going OOM but with Disc I can go a Full 10mins Raid or Tank Healing without going OOM. Had a pretty piss poor pug group on Magmaw took 10mins for the dps to down the boss we only succeded cause myself and a guildie shaman healer brought our (A) Game.
if your a priest and your having mana Issues switch to Disc learn all the little tricks to maximizing your Mana return and youll be golden P.S. Disc can raid heal as good if not better then Holy in alot of situations.
Some examples of maximizing your mana return I hope this helps
#1 PW:S should only be used on the Tank for Crit Buff and Rapture Mana return Cast 1x Heal to reduce weakened soul debuff so you can get Rapture proc as soon as its ready 12 sec instead of every 15secs. Just doing that alone assuming you have 100k mana that works out to be a 500mp5 increase.
#2 ShadowFiend / Hymn of Hope at the same time. Hymn of hope increase your Maximum mana by 15% that means your ShadowFiend transfers more mana to you.
#3 Smite as your go to heal when you dont need to heavly heal the raid or tank and dont use archangel you benefit more from the reduced mana cost of smite and penance then that 5% mana return garbage.
#4 use Inner Focus when ever its ready depending if your reducing the CD with GH or not its an average mana return of 750mp5
In other words dont depend just on your Trinkets to maximize your Disc mana regen utilize everything you have within talents and spells aswell. if your going OOM after 5mins even on a tough encounter your doing something wrong.
Last edited by Spawnxxx; 2011-01-16 at 10:50 PM.
Some fights you will definitely be OOM or running on empty after 5 mins with Halfus being the obvious example. Other fights you will be at 20-40% mana the entire time even after proccing all your goodies due to the waves of damage that come.
I'm curious as to why everyone is so against the Mandala of Stirring Patterns. Obviously it's not a good regen trinket but mastery is just as good or better than haste for throughput and blows crit out of the water.
Even in rough fights, though, you can still usually get off several ticks easily enough if a CD (PW:B / PS / GS / tank's own CD) is in play and you get the tank to a decent health level (much easier as disc since you have two powerful mitigation tools on short CD).
It'll be better when it's an Intellect proc. Mastery as a proc is just... blah.
Yes to blowing crit "out of the water". But laughably no to "just as good or better than haste".mastery is just as good or better than haste for throughput and blows crit out of the water.
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Last edited by TwistedCross; 2011-01-17 at 09:59 AM.
Anyone got the math of the Lifebound Alchemist's Stone? What about the new Intellect one? I have Tsunami and don't know if I should pick up Core or wait for the new Alch stone..
im thinking im gonna get the core of ripeness, to go with my blood of isiset. Im holy (probably forever xD) and i have reforged the blood of isiset to spi. Now for the question... should i keep killing myself in stonecore pugs just for the H tear of blood(i have the reg version atm)? Is it a huge upgrade of the H blood of isiset? Atm im gearing for mastery since im at that magical renew number for haste in raids. ty for checkin my post out btw =D
That aside the change to int is nice.
Oh I agree. I am not saying to avoid haste in favor of mastery. Just pointing out that the margin isn't that big if it is truly there.
Only played as Smite spam for Halfus so it does not proc off Atonement nor PW:S as that's all I did and didn't have a single stack of it for the duration of the fight.