I wrote this guide when Cataclysm was still in Beta, posted it on my guild's forums a week or so before Cataclysm released exclusively to try to have an upper hand for progression on my server, then when Boub released the contest I posted it up not thinking it would have been chosen.
Yes, most of the information is outdated and the strategies written are based off of datamined boss abilities, so a whole lot has changed.
Last edited by AdamsGaming; 2011-01-08 at 05:19 PM.
Then why enter the contest at all, when you already KNEW it was outdated? Entering in its current form is going to cause confusion for the readers, anger for the ones who entered as well and didnt win and rage for the ones who actually know its wrong. Boub probably didnt even know the tactics and just looked at the way it was written more than what was actually written.
Just stupid entering it when you knew it was wrong.
I'd rather watch Tankspot's video guides, but props for the work!
This isn't a guide of any sort, these are just notes from someone who's watched a few beta videos on youtube and tried to write down what they thought they saw. Fair enough it does say that in the initial post, and I'm certainly not hating in the author as he/she was honest from the beginning. The problem is MMO-Champ publishing this on the front page as a "Cataclysm Introduction Raiding Guide" which is embarrasingly misleading.
The encounters are completely different to what's posted here; important mechanics are missing left, right and centre and there's no way that any new raid guild would last more than a minute in on any of those bosses following what's written here. It doesn't even mention lightning conductor on Nefarian which is pretty much the mechanic the whole fight revolves around, along with the also unmentioned P1 and P3 adds and how to manage them, let alone the massive amount of wrong/missing things from the other encounters.
This should be taken down altogether so it doesn't waste the time/repair bills of any aspiring raiding guilds
Last edited by spoon; 2011-01-08 at 07:02 PM.
This is ridiculous.
In an effort to NOT lead new raiders astray I'm doing some MASSIVE editting on your guide and *hopefully* fixing it all.
This is all based on my own raid experience, corrections are welcome.
Throne of the Four Winds - Updated.
Bastion of Twilight - Updated.
Blackwing Descent - In Progress.
Last edited by Kyrstlol; 2011-01-09 at 04:07 AM.
Shadiscoly Priest - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...iarae/advanced
Protribution Pala - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ishyk/advanced
Stream of bads wiping lots - http://www.twitch.tv/kiaqt
Srsly, how he could get a prize by making a guide that is a compilation of many beta outdated strats?
Like tank magmaw adds? Why, to spawn more endlessly? Srsly....
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The guide creator clearly states that the guide is old and was published in his guild's forums, and still gets a prize? Sorry, this is way too weird.
For every Bossguide that is absolutely BEST to be found online - tankspot.com or youtube.com/ZAMOfficial - there simply are no better ressources to be found. Also alliena is a cute girl explaining boss tactics, check it out nerds!
of course, not my personal favorite either, but the voice is pretty good listening to and for a german her english is awesome, but i guess that's to be expected as she's living in america for quite some time ^^
Cheers AdamsGaming, will be using this in the future!
Really nice work, some tactics maybe isn't the best but overall it's a nice guide
Would be nice with a 10-man guide aswell.
If you want real guides, go look at Tankspots boss guide videos on Youtube.
The idea of a guide contest was great, but I am really disappointed by the majority of the choices.
My guild is working on the Ascendant Council, so that's the first thing I went to read. A guide, done by someone actually trying to make a guide, would include things such as ideal group composition... Do I 2 tank it, 3 heal it? (for 10m) is 3 heals going to result in too little damage output for those not farming the content?
You don't mention Hydro Lance at all... was that not in beta? Or was doing about 45-50% of a random person's (non tank) health, from a cast that could easily be interrupted, not important? It's not mentioned that one often follows almost immediately after Glaciate.
And your Phase 3 "guide" isn't much of a guide. It's a burn phase... yet you make no mention of what actually happens... like the pools that grow bigger and bigger the longer he stands in them dealing damage to any raid member standing in them, requiring the tank to move the boss pretty much throughout the phase. The Electric Instability that the boss casts randomly and gets stronger and stronger the longer he is alive.
You mention that the bosses in Phase 1 and 2 should be burned evenly to 30% (actually its 25%) for phase 3, but don't actually tell the readers why... there is nothing in the guide explaining the P3 Monstrosity shares the health of the 4 Ascendants.
It's really a shame that MMO-Champ is apparently handing out awards based on the mount of words used in the guides and not the actual usefulness of the guide. It's like they didn't even read the guides... just copied and pasted into Microsoft Word, and the guides with the most amount of words used gets a prize.
Honestly, all the people who are saying they are bookmarking this or posting in their guild forums, lt me introduce you to: http://www.wowpedia.org/
Using this guide for progression content is only going to cost you repair bills and probably a loss of guild members.
Last edited by Gritalian; 2011-01-09 at 01:32 AM. Reason: made note I was talking about 10m in referrence to amount of healers to be used.
I mean, obviously a lot of work went into it and it would have been great if 80% of those mechanics hadn't changed in beta, but even the guy who wrote it says it's terrible.
You can have an OT KITE the adds, but tanking them is retarded.