priest holy guide for heroics (and some beginning in 10man raids)

[tum]

Hi there

I have not seen any guides so i decided to write one. Im pretty sure there are many ppl who could say more but
its for beginners and not only pro players. It can by quite handy just to be sure that somebody else has the same
feelings bout healing. Am not a pro but have some experience and would like to share it to the others.

1. Priests are for sure powerful healers in cataclysm. Thats for sure. We have very good aoe heals so dont worry!

2. In cata mana is an issue, simply because cost of spells, (watch your healing spells and their costs)

3. Every healer has to think, end of spamming spells, you cant top every player every time. Deal with this.

4. If your party raid players dont know what are they doing (sources of dmg and way of avoiding it if possible) you CANT heal it up.
IF you have good players, you can end boss with like 40% of your mana easy, if dps will be casting their spells in aoe dmg
or get dmg in stupid ways u will lack mana. End of story. Tell them that, its your all job to work on your mana!

INT=SPI=MASTERY(echo of light) > crit >>> haste
now i feel like i have to tell more why i think is that way,

1. INT - gives u more mana, and more spell power, very important, for many reasons, well people judge you very often only
by watching your mana pool, so more mana better healer u are in their eyes, it works that way! But u cant reforge items on int.
So gems on it, trinkets on it if u can, enchants if u want to. U cant get many additional int except from gems and trinkets so
there are no question yes or not, simply get as much as u can.

2. SPI - my side is that spirit gives us more than int , spi = INSANE mana regen now. Trinket with 285 int gives u like what? 4k mana? Trinket with 285 spi gives you with 4 minutes fight like 11k mana , but int gives u also spell power. My choice is gem when u can (not for the cost of int), enchant when u can (better than int on enchants), if u lack mana put spi trinket. Reforge when u can.

3. MASTERY - pure healing, we have best mastery in game, its a hot , very strong one, if u dont belive me look into recount. It gives us opportunity no to max up members, echo will do it for us, and in 6 secs ahead. Thats very very handy. For raids and heroics. So items with mastery are definitly best ones for us now. Dont gem, if u want to put mastery trinket, reforge any time u can.

4. crit - its good but we dont have mana regen from it now ( i think) and we have quite enought to trigger our inspiration, so no worries. its not bad to have more but mastery or spirit is in my opinion a bit better (at least on the beginning stage)

5. haste - bad ones, well for some super imba healer can be good but where in woltk you could spam heal, and your only problem was "how the hack can i cast more in those 5 minutes while fighting boss" now its better to have mana for 1 more aoe heal then cast PoH 0,1 sec faster. Belive me. Its even not bout faster u cast faster u get out of mana. Its just that now you have to know when and why to press your buttons, not to spam them like hell.

Now people want to argue whats more important int or spi or mastery but its not that important cause we take best gear possible right? And the way we think is good to visualise on reforging. You cant reforge into item that is already on it. So there are few simple rules.

0. You cant reforge into INT
1. Get items with spirit, if there are no spirit on it u can reforge (haste, crit or even mastery) into. So reforge max u can. And next time find an item with SPI.
2. IF u already have item with spirit. Change haste or crit into mastery. Because you cant reforge into int and spi so next important is mastery. So try to find items with spi and mastery so you dont have to reforge. and then u can reforge haste to crit (but u dont have to)
3. if u can chose , always reforge haste and leave crit, if u can chose to reforge into spi, take it, if not go for mastery if not, go for crit

Trinkets:
easy choice: INT, INT or INT SPI or INT MASTERY , thats your choice

Gems:
int and spi mostly, we have good hole bonuses so you can add some with mastery or crit or whatever

Enchants:
SPI > INT
heartsong on weapon is excelent

Proffesions:
almost everything is good which gives us int or spi, so dont worry, tailoring is very nice cause of dark enchant on back which gives insane amount of mana (belive me or watch recount)


Way of healing.
Well, i was tryin to use inner will and instants but it just didnt work well. Just because of many sources of aoe dmg. You cant heal up everyone with renew anymore.
So i decided to use inner fire all the times.

1. if there is not so huge dmg on your tank
- renew, Pom (spam this on every cd) and chakra and 2x Heal (slow, low healing cheap spell) and then instant serenity . this way your Heal will be refreshing renew, u can use serenity to heal some dps (but not much) and use Heal on your tank. Healing this way your mana WILL NOT drop below , you can heal pretty forever and i was able to heal up this way some bosses with like 90% of mana at the end. BUT there is one huge disadvantage, you will not be able to keep tank alive when he will get heavy spanks . You can help yourself with guardian spirit but thats all.

2. if there is heavy (huge) dmg on your tank / also if ur dps get much dmg
- u begin with previous and then when u realise your tank is getting low change to: 2 x flasHeal 1xgHeal (with PoM ofc) , after this if dmg stops a bit u change to .1 if not continue with f heal and g heal. DISADVANTAGE - your mana sink like hell, 1 minute with spamming and you re out of mana, so use FLASH HEAL and GREATER HEAL only on emergency if not u will be without mana in no time

3. if aoe dmg u can either switch from serenity into sanctuary which takes time cause of chakra state, or just simply spam Prayer of healing (with glyph v. important) and CoH, and Pom, PoH costs like f. heal its silly but thats the way it is now. remember about Divine hymn, its extremly powerfull and it helps to keep many party members alive (dont use it if tank is very very low on health) use it when all are 50% hp or less and u cant heal all any other way

Mana savers:
- shadowfiend, use it when u are sure ur pet wont be killed or stunned or wont be kitted
- hymn of hope , good but channeling, dont let tank die during this
- mana potions , tailoring dark glow on back, heartsong on weapon, more more more spirit!
- lightwell , best on aoe but it helps just with mana issues every time u use it , great thing

Glyphs: (we dont have many good glyphs but many of them are handy)
- prayer of healing glyph, 20% after using in hot (very important)
- coh
- guardian of spirit
- renew
- fade

to sum up:
- Dont touch f heal or g heal if u dont have to
- Use as much PoM (prayef of mending) as u can this is your best friend in every situation!
- Use lightwell, remember to tell yout party members that they dont have to be near, they can click in it from distance (like 20 yards or sth) even during their combos
- Use shield on urself (with body and soul) if u need to speed up (helps being alive a lot)
- Keep yourself alive, dead healer = no heal

Remember to talk with your party or raid members so they know that its everyones jobs to keep your mana. If they got into some aoe traps or wont be quick enough u cant simply heal them , no matter how good you will be. Its so simple. If they will be focused and you will have knowledge bout boss skils everything will be ok.

And be kind and patient, healing is a mastery now! be proud and have fun!

Tum

p.s. and remember its only my way of healing, u can have your own, im not the best i dont calculate everything, i may be wrong on some details but it more or less works like i said, i heal every heroic easy with good team , we started to do some 10 man raids , its only begining, this can and will change if u get better gear so, i hope it will help anyway

[axio]

INT=SPI=MASTERY(echo of light) > crit >>> haste

No. Int and Spirit are always greater than mastery, and at some point Int is greater than spirit (remember, int also gives regen). Crit is also only better than haste after the cap (12.5%) which you likely won't reach in a heroic. While I appreciate you taking the time to write this up, I don't think I could recommend it to anyone.

You also said you run with a good group, which will of course make healing easier and much more forgiving. Healing randoms can be an entirely different story. I didn't read the entire thing either, but the fade glyph isn't necessary if you are holy (and I'm guessing not for shadow either) as long as you have a good tank.

Not to be a grammar nazi or anything, but is English a second language? If it is then after a long writeup like that you should probably state that, it will give your post slightly more credit.

[Kristya]

You already posted this exact same thing HERE. In fact, you did it earlier today. You got criticism in that thread for giving terrible information, namely saying that INT=SPIRIT=MASTERY and CRIT>HASTE, both of which are completely absurd.

Making a "guide" with incorrect information is bad enough. But re-posting the exact same guide when your first post is still on the first page of the Priest forums... That's just annoying.

I respect your desire to want to make a guide. I can't fault you for taking the time in an attempt to help people. Your intentions are good, but this is the wrong way to do it. Take some time and read up on priest mechanics in Cata. Read the sticky. Ask questions if you're confused. Once you have some actual useful info (as opposed to your opinions which have been proven wrong), then maybe you can re-work your guide and try again.

[tum]

am so sorry i posted it once before from work but it freezed so i thought it didnt posted it and then did it again from home, i would delete this one if i knew how

am sooo sry

---------- Post added 2010-12-23 at 12:32 AM ----------

i already reported myself so lets hope this one will be deleted

[Ultima]

Actaually, I think it's Haste > Mastery > Crit.

Also, surely Holy Paladins have a better Mastery!?