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    Best Race/Class combinations, from a lore perspective

    So I usually like to make my race/class selections from a lore standpoint. I usually don't factor in racials too much. So, I've been thinking about how the Pandaren factor into this whole thing. I figured that I'd bring it to the forums. Basically, I wanted to see what you thought the ranking for races for each class was. If enough people respond, I'll update the rankings.

    I updated the rankings based on the suggestions so far. Last update: 4/5/12 at 07:39 CST

    Death Knight
    Human
    Orc
    Forsaken
    Blood Elf
    Dwarf
    Troll
    Goblin
    Worgen
    Gnome
    Night Elf
    Tauren
    Draenei

    Druid
    Night Elf
    Tauren
    Worgen
    Troll

    Hunter
    Night Elf
    Dwarf
    Troll
    Tauren
    Blood Elf
    Human
    Orc
    Pandaren
    Worgen
    Draenei
    Goblin
    Forsaken

    Mage
    Blood Elf
    Human
    Night Elf
    Draenei
    Forsaken
    Gnome
    Pandaren
    Goblin
    Dwarf
    Worgen
    Troll
    Orc

    Monk
    Pandaren
    Dwarf
    Human
    Tauren
    Troll
    Blood Elf
    Night Elf
    Draenei
    Forsaken
    Orc
    Gnome

    Paladin
    Human
    Draenei
    Dwarf
    Blood Elf
    Tauren

    Priest
    Human
    Draenei
    Night Elf
    Forsaken
    Blood Elf
    Dwarf
    Troll
    Pandaren
    Worgen
    Tauren
    Gnome
    Goblin

    Rogue
    Orc
    Forsaken
    Troll
    Gnome
    Goblin
    Human
    Worgen
    Blood Elf
    Night Elf
    Pandaren
    Dwarf

    Shaman
    Orc
    Tauren
    Troll
    Draenei
    Dwarf
    Pandaren
    Goblin

    Warlock
    Orc
    Forsaken
    Human
    Blood Elf
    Goblin
    Troll
    Worgen
    Gnome
    Dwarf

    Warrior
    Orc
    Human
    Tauren
    Dwarf
    Night Elf
    Worgen
    Forsaken
    Pandaren
    Draenei
    Troll
    Blood Elf
    Goblin
    Gnome
    Last edited by Drewbacca; 2012-04-05 at 12:39 PM. Reason: Updated rankings

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    Warlock:
    I'd put Orc on first ( the orcs where the first playable race to become warlocks, Guldan, Nerzul...) Human 2nd Medivh.. Then Blood Elf/Undead then the same order you did.

    Cant really say if there's an order for the warrior or rogue class... I guess Orc would be first in Rogue for the Shattered Hand Clan and because of Garonna.

    In Mage I'd put Night Elf first as they were the original Mages...then Blood Elf and so on.

    In Paladin I'd put Dwarf over Tauren, as they joined they order of Silver Hand.
    Last edited by -Fyrion-; 2012-04-01 at 01:52 PM.

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    You might want to revise some of the rankings and spread them to specs. Draenei were the first priests, but the first priests who started practicing shadow magic were Forsaken.

    And yea, while we are at it, change Undead to Forsaken. I hate when people start comparing them like that >_<

    I'm to lazy to make my own ranking list, but your is kinda interesting. I found some flaws in it and if you could explain why:

    Death Knight: Now here depends which Death Knights you take. If it's pre Arthas, then orcs should be the first choice, but if it's about post Arthas, humans should be first then the rest should follow in any order.

    Rogue: how come worgen is the first? Savage beasts are everything but not subtle. Yes they are wolfs they are hunting from the shadows but still their savage nature can't really allow them that much subtlety. And to see pandaren above forsaken is just absurd..

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    why are tauren so low on the huntard list? they're a hunting race . . .

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    If some races aren't listed, they're pretty much equal (in my view).

    Death Knight
    1. Human
    2. Orc
    3. Blood Elf

    Druid
    1. Night Elf
    2. Tauren
    3. Troll
    4. Worgen

    Hunter
    1. Blood Elf
    2. Dwarf
    3. Night Elf
    4. Tauren
    5. Troll

    Mage
    1. Human
    2. Blood Elf
    3. Gnome
    4. Night Elf
    5. Draenei

    Monk
    1. Pandaren
    2. Dwarf
    3. Human
    4. Troll
    5. Undead

    Paladin
    1. Human
    2. Draenei
    3. Dwarf

    Priest
    1. Draenei
    2. Human
    3. Undead
    4. Night Elf

    Rogue
    1. Goblin
    2. Undead
    3. Gnome
    4. Troll
    5. Human
    6. Blood Elf

    Shaman
    1. Orc
    2. Troll
    3. Dwarf
    4. Tauren

    Warlock
    1. Orc
    2. Undead
    3. Blood Elf
    4. Human
    5. Goblin
    6. Gnome

    Warrior
    1. Orc
    2. Human
    3. Dwarf
    4. Worgen
    5. Tauren
    6. Draenei
    7. Pandaren
    Last edited by dibidibirek; 2012-04-01 at 02:16 PM.

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    Alright, so im going after the looks and abit lorewise.

    Death Knight - Human
    Druid - Tauren
    Hunter - Night Elf
    Mage - Human
    Monk - Pandaren
    Paladin - Human
    Priest - Human
    Shaman - Troll
    Rogue - Undead
    Warlock - Undead
    Warrior - Orc

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    Good comments so far. I guess my main goal was to see where people thought the Pandaren fit in. I'll update the first post as soon as i get home from vacation. As for some responses...

    Death Knights: I was considering this post-Arthas, as that is what your character generally is. I see alot of people putting humans first, but what about Forsaken? They're both undead.

    Druids: There's pretty much agreement except whether Worgen or Trolls go first. I considered the whole Scythe of Elune storyline more relavent than the lore behind the Trolls. Remember, Worgen started out as just another Druid form.

    Hunters: There's alot of ranking the Blood Elves and Dwarves high. I think this is because of the archers and riflemen in the previous games. However, remember that a hunter is not merely a ranged attacker, but also one who is in tune with the animals.

    Mages: There's not a ton to change here, except how high the Night Elves should be.

    Monks: I tried to think which races seemed to fit best with hand-to-hand combat and drinking. For some reason, a Tauren monk seemed ridiculous to me. I then thought about the dynamic between the Pandaren and other races. Do you really see the Forsaken or Blood Elves allowing some talking panda to come in and teach them a whole new way to fight?

    Paladins: Here you have to weigh if you like the newer lore for the Horde races, or if you like the older, but less fleshed out Dwarf lore.

    Priests: I was gonna divide it by specs, but that would have left 34 different lists.

    Rogues: I have been putting the Worgen high because they're stealthy and fight with two hands. Fist weapons make sense for them, and that fits well with a rogue. I also was ganked too many times by a Son of Arugal. As for Pandaren being over Forsaken, I agree with you. I just saw the "swashbuckler" description for a Combat Rogue, and thought that fit a Pandaren.

    Shaman: Not a ton of disagreement here.

    Warlocks: Seems like Orcs here the best. I just thought a Forsaken Warlock made alot of sense when I made the list.

    Warriors: I know it makes sense for all of the races, but which ones does it fit the best?

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    I think belfs should be the higest for mages on your list imo.

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    Death Knight
    Human(w/ Orc soul) - Teron Gorefiend

    Druid
    Night Elf - Malfurion Stormrage

    Hunter
    Dwarf
    Human
    If it was actually a ranger class the answer would be blood elf.

    Mage
    Blood Elf
    Human
    The highborne taught humans magic but Medivh is the most powerful mage in the history of the game. Or you could say Eredar but they arent playable.

    Monk
    Pandaren

    Paladin
    Human

    Priest
    Human - WC1
    Blood Elf - WC3

    Rogue
    Orc - Garona Halforcen

    Shaman
    Orc - Nerzhul

    Warlock
    Orc - Guldan
    Also could be Eredar.

    Warrior
    Anyone can be a warrior except gnomes because they are too weak.

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    Death Knight
    Orc
    Human
    Blood Elf
    Forsaken

    Druid
    Night Elf
    Tauren
    Worgen
    Troll

    Hunter
    Tauren
    Troll
    Night Elf
    Blood Elf
    Dwarf
    Orc

    Mage
    Draenei
    Blood Elf
    Human
    Night Elf
    Forsaken

    Monk
    Pandaren

    Paladin
    Human
    Draenei
    Dwarf

    Priest
    Draenei
    Night Elf
    Human

    Rogue
    Night Elf
    Troll
    Goblin
    Orc

    Shaman
    Orc
    Tauren
    Troll
    Draenei
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    Warlock
    Orc
    Forsaken
    Blood Elf
    Goblin
    Human

    Warrior
    Night Elf
    Orc
    Dwarf
    Tauren
    Human

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    I really don't understand Undead DKs from a lore standpoint. They're... un-undead?

    I'm not sure when Arthas even got the chance to find some Forsaken warriors, deem them suitable and kill them (again) and raise them from the dead (again) as death knights.

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    Death Knight
    Undead - This class doesn't really have an iconic race, other than death knights are undead, so if you can be undead x2...

    Druid
    Night Elf - The first druid was a night elf.

    Hunter
    Night Elf - Just because of the night elf archers from WC3.

    Mage
    Blood Elf - First mages were high elves, but since those aren't a playable race, next best thing.

    Monk
    Pandaren - What else would be the iconic monk?

    Paladin
    Human - First paladin was a human.

    Priest
    Dwarf - Vanilla players will get this.

    Rogue
    Gnome

    Shaman
    Orc

    Warlock
    Orc - First warlock was an orc's spirit put into a human body.

    Warrior
    Tauren - They're huge!


    You might want to revise some of the rankings and spread them to specs. Draenei were the first priests, but the first priests who started practicing shadow magic were Forsaken.
    First shadow priest was actually a dwarf, during the war of the three hammers, long before Arthas even started turning people into undead.
    Last edited by The Batman; 2012-04-03 at 06:45 AM.

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    Too lazy to create an entire list but if I was to flip it and pick the best class for each race it would go like this:

    Human Paladin
    Dwarf Hunter
    Night Elf Druid
    Gnome Mage
    Draenei Shaman
    Worgen Rogue

    Orc Warrior
    Troll Hunter
    Undead Warlock
    Tauren Druid
    Blood Elf Mage
    Goblin Rogue
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    Here's my take on best lore per class.

    Death Knight
    Human

    Druid
    Night Elf

    Hunter
    Blood Elf/ Dwarf

    Mage
    Human/Blood Elves

    Paladin
    Human/Draenei

    Priest
    Human/Draenei

    Rogue
    Forsaken

    Shaman
    Orc/Draenei (Broken particularly because of their struggle that lead to shamanism)

    Warlock
    Orc

    Warrior
    Human/Orc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleros View Post
    Warlock
    Orc - First warlock was an orc's spirit put into a human body.
    The first death knights were the souls of dead warlocks that Guldan put into the bodies of dead human knights. Guldan was the first warlock(he was once a shaman) who was given his power by Sargeras. Guldan then taught other shamans how to use demon powers to become warlocks.

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    Paladin-Tauren

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    I would roll Taurens up higher on the list on Monks and Hunters.

    Taurens in my minds are a very tranquil and "zen" people :P Fits monks well no?
    Also, Taurens.. Plainswalkers, living off the land.. How is that not a Hunter right there?`

    Edit: My List :P

    Death Knight -----> Human ---> Orc ---> Dwarf

    Druid -----> Night Elf ---> Tauren

    Hunter -----> Night Elf ---> Tauren ---> Troll

    Mage -----> Blood Elf ---> Human ---> Undead

    Monk -----> Pandaren ---> Tauren ---> Human

    Paladin -----> Draenei ---> Human ---> Dwarf

    Priest -----> Draenei ---> Human ---> Blood Elf

    Rogue -----> Orc ---> Troll ---> Human

    Shaman -----> Orc ---> Tauren ---> Troll

    Warrior -----> Orc ---> Human

    Warlock -----> Orc ---> Human



    In General Orcs and Humans have natural affinities for alot of the classes i would say. They are natural picks for almost all of them imo
    Last edited by Tides; 2012-04-03 at 07:29 AM.

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    panda errything, +300 stats = lol.

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    Lorewise:

    Death Knight: Human
    Druid: Tauren
    Hunter: Dwarf
    Mage: Blood Elf
    Monk: Panda
    Paladin: Human
    Priest: Night Elf
    Rogue: Gnome
    Shaman: Orc
    Warrior: Orc
    Warlock: Troll

  20. #20
    I updated the rankings based on what people have said so far. It's basically an average of where people have suggested things go. One class I'd like more feedback on is the Monk class. I know there's not a ton of lore yet, but how do you think the races would pan out?

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