had a mac, and hated it.
I use the computers at college for coursework, so my PC is used solely for gaming.
I'd do anything for a smile, holding you 'til our time is done.
My dad has always bought mac and now I'm familiar with it. Don't really like the pc's with all their viruses.
The sword is an extension of the arm, but don't pick your nose with it!
Canada, 24" iMac. I understand PC's are cheap and highly customizable compared to their Mac counterparts but for someone who is a computer retard I find the mac set up easy to navigate, easy to maintain and very intuitive. I haven't gotten past the first page yet but I'm hoping this doesn't turn into a flame war.
Off topic question: If I have a PC, is it possible to run it straight off of OSX without boot camp? Basically a Mac in a PC body without bootcamp or something similar.
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Edit: Well after getting further through this thread it's clear this thread has begun to deteriorate into a flame war.
So I will also leave you Mac bashers with this. You act like Mac and their users are personally attacking you and it is your duty to insult and bash them, their product, and the people who use them. The most ironic part about it is half the time you claim that Mac users are smug assholes who deserve it. This thread shows just the opposite. Just like what you like and be done with it.
Last edited by deathtakes; 2010-12-31 at 07:20 PM.
It's strikingly easy to close threads. The OP was correct in his post saying to post what you use.
If this delves further into a flame war it will be closed
Post what you use. I don't care why you don't use the other or why you think the other sucks, that wasn't the question. The question was what do you use, so keep your answers short, sweet, and to the point.
I have been a Mac user for the passed 4 years and hated the last 3 of it VERY VERY much my biggest problem with it the HUGE lack of games (Of course) and just general software, ill also say that every problem I have had with it would have been MUCH MUCH more easy to fix on a pc and a crap load less expensive. 2 Weeks ago my iMac finally called it quits and died on me about 2 hours after hitting 85 and getting enough gear to start heroics... My new bad ass monster pc should be here in the next 2 weeks.... I'm very anxious.
If your doing basic web surfing/editing or media editing I would say Mac is good Mac 4 years ago VS Vista I will say Mac spanked Vista in term of performance even for wow, but now with Windows 7 I really see no point or advantage to having mac. Pay more to do less. That being said the iPhone and iPad are way cool and a must have for any geek, ill also admit I had MUCH less problems with virus security for my Mac. If you're going to get mac I must strongly recommend avoiding their lap tops and iMacs. They are notorious for heating issues and the way they are built its hard and expensive to fix/replace parts especially the iMac. If the ONLY game you play is WoW mac may not be a bad choice as it is a VERY light OS but it also does have problems with SOME vent servers if they lack GSM codecs.
Just close it, it won't get any better. It will just degenerate further into "Mac users are noobs", "Mac users are snobs","Mac users are stupid" etc.If this delves further into a flame war it will be closed
As a side note, I bet I've done more work with computers and IT than pretty much anyone in this thread in the last 15 years. I've delivered machines that cost more than your apartment yet today I use a Mac. Why? Because I got tired of spending my time patching together various components and nowadays I just want to get the job done.
Also, Macs work fine with Unix mainframes and Linux/BSD/SunOS-Solaris so it's an obvious choice for anyone in my line of work, or rather my ex-work since I'm nowadays doing something completely different.
Last edited by Miuku; 2010-12-31 at 08:06 PM.
:: On indefinite hiatus from WoW ::
Back in BC I had an issue with my Mac that caused me to crash my modem every time I was on the stairs in Kara only when I was using wireless. Everybody in my house would insta DC.
And to the first part of your post, that's exactly what Mac is great for, simple sweet and straight forward. Its why their phones are so good.
The biggest problem I had with my iMac is most the hardware is soldered to the motherboard, so when something breaks you have to unsolder it witch can be very risky, NO WORRIES you say!? I have the apple care protection plan! I sent my mac in 4 times because the wireless went out, the Ethernet port burned out, and my graphics card died, First time I sent it back they didn't fix anything.... second time they got my wireless working. third they FINALLY fixed my graphics card and my ethernet port was never fixed even when I sent it in the 4th and eventual 5th time for JUST that issue, no other issue just the bad port and it never got fixed. My current problem is my HDD just burned out and because I'm not a mac genius I'm apparently to stupid to be allowed to open the case to MY comp and fix it myself without some silly little key or the possibility of breaking it more, the cost to send it in and repair it you ask? Without the apple protection plan. A whopping 870 bucks.... I paid 2 grand for this thing 4 almost 5 years ago....
As far as "Smug Apple Owners" go, id say its on both sides of the fence, we have a name for those people, they are called Fan-Boys, and we should all hate them.
Please don't take me wrong, not hating on Mac or Mac users, just had a bad experience myself, but they do certainly have their place.
But no, you wouldn't get banned. If you were to insult people for buying apple, then yes you would get banned.
There's a surprising amount of people playing on apple computers, more than I'd think.
The Mean Machine
Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.42 GHz ~ EVGA GTX 570 HD ~ Asus P8P67-M Pro ~ 24GB Corsair Dominator @ 1600 MHz ~ 240GB Corsair Force 3 ~ 6x2 TB Caviar Green (storage) ~ Antec Kuhler 920 ~ Corsair TX series 650W ~ Antec 902 (modded)
Simply put: It's a poorly thrown together operating system, and the primary reason for this is that they keep going from the ground up, instead of iterating on their designs until they get somewhere. Every new release is basically a whole bunch of new things getting thrown at the wall and hoping some of them stick, but in the process they keep clogging it up with worthless features that they insist on shoving in your face. In this respect, I simply prefer the design of OSX. I find it more fluid for everyday use, and the features I don't use are tightly tucked away where they don't get in my way.
This doesn't mean OSX is better for everyone, but it is better for me. If you prefer the Windows interface, or need programs that only work in Windows, that's great for you and I wish you well. However, I think I got my money's worth with my Mac. Sure, I could get a similarly powered PC for way cheaper, but it wouldn't have half the features my Mac has. I could get a car as powerful as a BMW 7-Series for way cheaper, but that doesn't mean it would have the same bells and whistles. My Mac has numerous convenience features that I use frequently, such as the giant touchpad with click-anywhere, the magsafe, the extraordinarily well done backlighting, the wide viewing angle screen, Firewire-800, an extremely sturdy but light shell, and on top of all this it has the OS I prefer, which runs the software I need, and is compatible with all the external hardware I need to have access to.
I think it's pretty obvious that most of the repliers are young - many of you weren't there to see the bullshit of Intel+Microsoft in the 80s and early-mid 90s and the business practices they had and still do in many ways. If you were and you had experience with dealing with them in real life and in business sense, you might have completely different opinions about them.
Last edited by Miuku; 2010-12-31 at 08:40 PM.
:: On indefinite hiatus from WoW ::
I won't deny that OSX isn't awesome, because it is. The folks that put together Snow Leopard definitely deserve a Christmas bonus for the work. It's a fantastic OS that, well, works. The biggest problem is they don't get driver updates quick enough to put state-of-the-art hardware in their systems. In terms of usability, OSX is great. I'd put it even with Win7.This doesn't mean OSX is better for everyone, but it is better for me. If you prefer the Windows interface, or need programs that only work in Windows, that's great for you and I wish you well. However, I think I got my money's worth with my Mac. Sure, I could get a similarly powered PC for way cheaper, but it wouldn't have half the features my Mac has. I could get a car as powerful as a BMW 7-Series for way cheaper, but that doesn't mean it would have the same bells and whistles. My Mac has numerous convenience features that I use frequently, such as the giant touchpad with click-anywhere, the magsafe, the extraordinarily well done backlighting, the wide viewing angle screen, Firewire-800, an extremely sturdy but light shell, and on top of all this it has the OS I prefer, which runs the software I need, and is compatible with all the external hardware I need to have access to.
Now my biggest issue, aside from Jobs, is the price they demand for their products. They buy all their materials from the same Korean company that most other computer companies do. They opt to use laptop GPU's for their iMacs to save on size, which increases heat and decreases performance. They solder components on motherboards to size down their products, which in turn makes fixing it yourself damn near impossible unless you really know what you're doing. That practically forces you to take Applecare. I could laundry list problems, but I don't feel that's too constructive. Really the only thing superior about them is sound engineering software. Unless you're in the music industry, you're really getting jipped for money.
Id also like to clarify to the "I use macs so I don't get a virus" Its not that Macintosh is Virus proof, its that 80%+ of the world uses Windows so a hacker would be smarter to hack the larger portion, and imo its not a fair trade when you think about how few programs Mac has in comparison to PC and the over all cost of a mac and the mait cost of a mac.
I personally prefer the PC. Allows me to customize however I want. And of course cheaper.