Alchemy Tips

[Deleted]

Hey guys i just got my Alchemy to 525 and would love to get some tips to make some gold on the AH, using it. Can any help me?

Thanks a lot

[Deleted]

Check out the price of the various gems on your AH and see what you can transmute at a profit. Remember Transmute Living Elements and Transmute Truegold share a cooldown, so decide which is more profitable (for me it's transmute to air (in uldum)). Also worth noting that after your faction wins TB a bunch of people will get new pvp gear, thus wanting new gems etc so the prices will go up at this time.

EDIT: Make sure you have an Alchemy spec, alot of people seem to forget.

[Shawnelly]

Check out the price of the various gems on your AH and see what you can transmute at a profit. Remember Transmute Living Elements and Transmute Truegold share a cooldown, so decide which is more profitable (for me it's transmute to air (in uldum)). Also worth noting that after your faction wins TB a bunch of people will get new pvp gear, thus wanting new gems etc so the prices will go up at this time.

EDIT: Make sure you have an Alchemy spec, alot of people seem to forget.

What would be the best spec for making money?
Elixier master ahs chance to proc on Flasks right?

Or is transmute mastery better for gems/living elements? or is this question best determined by looking at the economy on my server?

[Deleted]

What would be the best spec for making money?
Elixier master ahs chance to proc on Flasks right?

Or is transmute mastery better for gems/living elements? or is this question best determined by looking at the economy on my server?

Good question here. I dont have an achemy spec, which one should choose?

[Deleted]

I would always suggest elixir but thats just me, NEVER take potions. Basically you have to decide between transmute and elixir :3 whatever you make more, go with that

[xlord]

i picked transmute, cos i used to do that alot in wotlk.
you wont always get the proc for more stuff but when it does its always nice to have it.

[Deleted]

I changed to transmutation master in Cataclysm and it's quite profitable. I don't make any flasks because I'm not into PvE and I'm too lazy to farm herbs. I use my miner alt to collect stuff for Truegold transmute. When I'm even too lazy to complete mats for truegold, I use living elements.
Potion master is pretty useless unless you're making many potions of treasure finding, of illusion and... Deepholm?

Stick to transmute, you can make money with truegold (my record is 3x truegold from 1 transmute) and you can also transmute more rare gems from uncommon. It's excellent if you've got a miner, don't know about AH prices though.
If you prefer farming herbs, get elixir master.

For ppl who have never done a specialization:
Each spec has a different quest in TBC content, but you only have to do it once. After that, you can just unlearn 1 spec for 150g and learn another without doing Q (learning is free). Also, after dropping alchemy and leveling it again, you still don't need to do that again.

[Deleted]

Ok guys thx a lot for the help

[pouca]

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For ppl who have never done a specialization:
Each spec has a different quest in TBC content, but you only have to do it once. After that, you can just unlearn 1 spec for 150g and learn another without doing Q (learning is free). Also, after dropping alchemy and leveling it again, you still don't need to do that again.

By the way I couldn't find the NPC to change specialization. I thought it was the "birds" in Shattrath but any of them seems to do that anymore.
Neither other NPC for the quests seems to give something anymore.

[Drakhar]

I would always suggest elixir but thats just me, NEVER take potions. Basically you have to decide between transmute and elixir :3 whatever you make more, go with that

Actually, this is the first time potion mastery has been worthwhile IMO. The new health/mana potions aren't world drops and the potion of treasure finding is worth quite a bit to farmers, more than some flasks even.

That being said, I'm still a transmute master and have been since Wrath flasks dropped significantly in price.

By the way I couldn't find the NPC to change specialization. I thought it was the "birds" in Shattrath but any of them seems to do that anymore.
Neither other NPC for the quests seems to give something anymore.

Last time I swapped specialization I had to go to the NPC that gives my current one, the other 2 wouldn't do it. Could be a bug if none of the three will talk to you though?

[themortalgod]

On my server the master is a no brainer as xmute volatile life to air is the only profitable alchemy recipe. Everything else sells for signifcantly less than the mats (rare gems cost 150 to make and sell for 20, meta gem costs 700 to make and sells for 300)

Overall until the xpac matures a bit alch won't be all that profitable because demand on materials is super high because everyone is lvling profs and selling off what they make to lvl it cheap.

[Lazur]

I am currently transmute spec for making truegold, metas, and gems. BUT once a week I swap to elixir spec.... I farm herbs like crazy making my darkmoon cards, but save some or buy some from AH if super super cheap, and have enough herbs to make ~40 flasks. Before I make the flasks I go to shat and train for elixir mastery... muahahaha. That way when i make the flasks i can still have a chance at procs. It costs 150 to swap mastery, but hell, well worth it. When i'm done making flasks i change back to transmute spec, it costs another 150g, but who cares. If you proc one or two extra flasks, it's bought and paid for. Try this out and I think you'll be happy with the results.

[Shawnelly]

I am currently transmute spec for making truegold, metas, and gems. BUT once a week I swap to elixir spec.... I farm herbs like crazy making my darkmoon cards, but save some or buy some from AH if super super cheap, and have enough herbs to make ~40 flasks. Before I make the flasks I go to shat and train for elixir mastery... muahahaha. That way when i make the flasks i can still have a chance at procs. It costs 150 to swap mastery, but hell, well worth it. When i'm done making flasks i change back to transmute spec, it costs another 150g, but who cares. If you proc one or two extra flasks, it's bought and paid for. Try this out and I think you'll be happy with the results.

That is a great idea,

My question would be, Would it even work with farming mats for treasure potion and swapping to potion master when you can make 10 or 20 of these? Or will they not be as profitable as transmutes/Flasks?

[Deleted]

Depends on server prices and amount of potions to be made.

[Kaffeefilter]

Hey guys,
i have 4 transmute alchemy toons. Never got a single additional volatile element from transmuting. Always 14-16, like the description says. Anyone here has similar experiences with the transmute spec ?

greets

[Mr. Casual]

Hey guys,
i have 4 transmute alchemy toons. Never got a single additional volatile element from transmuting. Always 14-16, like the description says. Anyone here has similar experiences with the transmute spec ?

greets

same here i havent gotten any procs all cata......
OT: i was about o make a thread about this because my server is screwed up and pretty much true gold sells for about 700-800 and the mats cost about 700-800 to buy and it makes me wanna cry but transmuting element is good for me i just wish the cooldown was shorter

[Coldkil]

atm i'm doing like 600-700g a day just trasmuting volatile life to air or to the higest priced in AH^^

time consumed: farming enough to make 5 flasks for my rogue :P

[Leobald]

Unless your server economy is very different to mine, transmuting rare coloured gems will not bring you any money, mainly due to the ridiculously high herb prices (due to a shortage of nodes, phasing issues, etc.).

Transmuting metagems brings a profit (on my server). (Note that the "default" result of a metagem transmute is x2 (proc would be x4,x6, etc.), so take this into account when calculating potential profit.) If you buy uncommon gems on the AH for a metagem transmute don't do it on a day when one of the uncommon gems is needed for the JC daily quest, because their price on days like that will be at least double the normal amount. Note that since cut uncommon gems vendor for 9 gold, the price of uncut uncommon gems should never fal below 9-10 gold.

I used to do Truegold transmutes with my daily cooldown, but I have recently switched to transmuting Volatile Life into Volatile Air. The profit margins are about the same, but while Volatile Air actually sells quickly, Truegold has to be relisted sometimes for days because of low demand and undercutting. (Your server might be different.) Be aware that if you go one of the new Cata areas, the Volatile transmute stops being random (Uldum - Air, Vashj'r - Water, etc.).

On my server there is no money in making flasks. 95% of times I check the AH the cost of mats is above the price of the product, so you are at the mercy of elixir mastery procs. I leave that to others.

And yes, until the cost to switch Alchemy specialisation remains 2x150 gold, switching back between transmuting and elixir mastery (or maybe even potion) makes sense. I expect them to raise the price significantly soon (maybe level dependent: 150 for lvl 70s, 1000 or so for lvl 85s).

[Zreo]

Unless your server economy is very different to mine, transmuting rare coloured gems will not bring you any money, mainly due to the ridiculously high herb prices (due to a shortage of nodes, phasing issues, etc.).

Transmuting metagems brings a profit (on my server). (Note that the "default" result of a metagem transmute is x2 (proc would be x4,x6, etc.), so take this into account when calculating potential profit.) If you buy uncommon gems on the AH for a metagem transmute don't do it on a day when one of the uncommon gems is needed for the JC daily quest, because their price on days like that will be at least double the normal amount. Note that since cut uncommon gems vendor for 9 gold, the price of uncut uncommon gems should never fal below 9-10 gold.

I used to do Truegold transmutes with my daily cooldown, but I have recently switched to transmuting Volatile Life into Volatile Air. The profit margins are about the same, but while Volatile Air actually sells quickly, Truegold has to be relisted sometimes for days because of low demand and undercutting. (Your server might be different.) Be aware that if you go one of the new Cata areas, the Volatile transmute stops being random (Uldum - Air, Vashj'r - Water, etc.).

On my server there is no money in making flasks. 95% of times I check the AH the cost of mats is above the price of the product, so you are at the mercy of elixir mastery procs. I leave that to others.

And yes, until the cost to switch Alchemy specialisation remains 2x150 gold, switching back between transmuting and elixir mastery (or maybe even potion) makes sense. I expect them to raise the price significantly soon (maybe level dependent: 150 for lvl 70s, 1000 or so for lvl 85s).

I got a meta-proc on x3 so x4-x6 is not correct. I dont know what the max is. Anyways, I changed to elixir master after the truegold prices got down to what the mats cost. I make a ton a money with it, but it seems like procs are more rare than wotlk.

[Leobald]

I got a meta-proc on x3 so x4-x6 is not correct. I dont know what the max is.

Thanks, I must admit I never had anything but x2 for my metagems so far. I assumed it worked like flasks in WotLK.