Elemental breaking polymorph

[RoundandRound]

Is anyone else having an issue with their water elemental breaking polymorph? If I have my elemental on defensive and cast polymorph on a target the elemental immediately targets my sheep (pig/monkey/turtle) and breaks it. I end up putting my elemental on passive for any pull that requires CC, but sometimes I forget to tell it to attack. It would be much easier if the elemental would not attack my polymorphed target (unless I later cast an offensive spell towards it).

Is this a known bug or expected behavior?

[Tedj]

no idea, either way, macro your polymorph spell with a pet stop attack macro and macro your frostbolt with a pet cast his waterbolt or wte

[Laotzu]

Have the same issue with my hunter. If I trap something pet goes and breaks it, same with Wyvern Sting as well.

REALLY annoying.

[Slenzy]

Put a pet attack macro in all your offensive abilities , not just /petattack since that will fuck it up if you spamm the button, and also a /stop pet attack macro on in your poly, proper macros can be found somewhere on Elitistjerks.com

[Deleted]

Macro it, maybe a pet attacks main target and macro your wyvern or trap onto a focus ?

[Swizzle]

Your pet should be on passive...always.

[Styxz]

Wait...

What's does /petattack screw up again?

That's what I'm using and if its goofy ill switch.

[Deleted]

Wait...

What's does /petattack screw up again?

That's what I'm using and if its goofy ill switch.

Spamming /petattack is just like spamming /autoattack; you turn it off and on. (If i'm not misstaken)

[Swizzle]

Wait...

What's does /petattack screw up again?

That's what I'm using and if its goofy ill switch.

If you hit your /petattack macro then hit it again before your pet's GCD has finished, your pet will just spam reset its cast timer, causing it to never actually use Waterbolt. Best bet, macro it to Ice Lance, since the GCD on both Waterbolt and Ice Lance is equal and you really shouldn't be mashing that key anyway.

[RoundandRound]

Tedj, Vulkyr:
I keep meaning to look into macros because I know that they would be helpful, but something else always comes up (i.e. archeology). I am definitely going to add a stopattack macro on my polymorph spell. I am hoping to be able to do something with focus target so I don't have to always switch back and forth between targets.

swizzle: Is there a reason to always have a pet on passive? I can think of certain situations where that is a good idea, but I don't understand why you would always want that especially when it would mean a drop in dps if you don't start attacking right away.

[Swizzle]

swizzle: Is there a reason to always have a pet on passive? I can think of certain situations where that is a good idea, but I don't understand why you would always want that especially when it would mean a drop in dps if you don't start attacking right away.

On Defensive, your pet won't be attacking if you're not either.

[Healitosis]

Passive +

#showtooltip Frostbolt
/cast Frostbolt
/cast !Waterbolt

works wonders for me.

[RoundandRound]

On Defensive, your pet won't be attacking if you're not either.

That is the behavior that I want. If I am not casting polymorph defensive works fine for me because my WE starts attacking as soon as I begin casting.

However, when my water elemental is on defensive it considers casting polymorph an "attack" so it starts attacking as well. By the time I cast polymorph the first water bolt has been cast which immediately breaks my sheep.

In my opinion casting polymorph should not cause the WE to begin casting. The only effect this has is to break CC which a pet should *not* do, IMHO.

[Swizzle]

That is the behavior that I want. If I am not casting polymorph defensive works fine for me because my WE starts attacking as soon as I begin casting.

However, when my water elemental is on defensive it considers casting polymorph an "attack" so it starts attacking as well. By the time I cast polymorph the first water bolt has been cast which immediately breaks my sheep.

In my opinion casting polymorph should not cause the WE to begin casting. The only effect this has is to break CC which a pet should *not* do, IMHO.

Just keep it on passive so it never attacks anything you don't want, is always with you and not chasing random things, and allows for quicker OOC.

[Aragen]

Just keep it on passive so it never attacks anything you don't want, is always with you and not chasing random things, and allows for quicker OOC.

I have to disagree on keeping pets on passive, it is just stupid and other than causing unnecessary hard-ache for the mage in terms of micro management and macros it is (no matter how you look at it) a DPS loss. The ONLY and I say only time being on Defensive is a problem is when you are sheeping something, this is very easily fixed by having a stopcasting macro for the WE (which is also good when the WE goes all who the hell knows where and you need to bring them back into Freeze range/LoS).

[RoundandRound]

I have to disagree on keeping pets on passive, it is just stupid and other than causing unnecessary hard-ache for the mage in terms of micro management and macros it is (no matter how you look at it) a DPS loss. The ONLY and I say only time being on Defensive is a problem is when you are sheeping something, this is very easily fixed by having a stopcasting macro for the WE (which is also good when the WE goes all who the hell knows where and you need to bring them back into Freeze range/LoS).

I still think that this is something that Blizzard should look into (WE breaking polymorph), but I imagine that it will be pretty low on their priority list.

[Swizzle]

I have to disagree on keeping pets on passive, it is just stupid and other than causing unnecessary hard-ache for the mage in terms of micro management and macros it is (no matter how you look at it) a DPS loss. The ONLY and I say only time being on Defensive is a problem is when you are sheeping something, this is very easily fixed by having a stopcasting macro for the WE (which is also good when the WE goes all who the hell knows where and you need to bring them back into Freeze range/LoS).

A) How is it a DPS loss?
B) Why is it stupid?
C) Your solution is just as micro-management heavy as keeping it on passive.

[RoundandRound]

A) How is it a DPS loss?
B) Why is it stupid?
C) Your solution is just as micro-management heavy as keeping it on passive.

It is a DPS loss (albeit small) if you have your pet on passive and don't set it to attack a target. Maybe this isn't an issue for your first target, but as you switch between 3-4 targets throughout the course of a pull that micro management adds up.

As far as I can tell adding a stopcasting macro to a polymorph spell and leaving the WE in defensive actually adds zero micro management. I would be able to cast polymorph (without the WE breaking it) and then move to my first target which the WE would immediately start attacking. The only possible micro would be if I started attacking the wrong target and needed to switch to another target in which case I would need to command the WE to change targets. However this would be the same case for either defensive or passive (or even aggressive).

I don't disagree that passive is a valid option for some players. However, I think that there is an easier way than having to micro every pet action throughout the course of a fight.

[Spectrez]

Your elemental hates you.

[RoundandRound]

Your elemental hates you.

And here I was thinking that we had something special...