[BWD] - Maloriak help needed -

[Deleted]

Hey guys me and my guild have so far done omnitron and magmaw on our 2 first raids with a tons of wipes but they did finally went down

Today we were moving on to Maloriak which we thought would be easier than the other two we downed but it was not
However, we used following setup:
3 healers - resto sham, hpala, resto druid
5 dps - rogue, spriest, firemage, hunter and dk
2 tanks - warr, feral druid

First tactic -> best try 30 %...
feral tank boss, warr OT adds, mage+hunter and resto help warr kite them. interrupt 2 add summons in first phrase nuke 9 adds (all of them did not went down), too many adds in the end and wipe..
Second tactic-> 15 % best try
Interrupt all the summons of the adds and OT help dps all the time , nuke in green phrase as there where no adds.. chaos in the last part when 18 adds + 2 elites suddenly came xD

we are doing good at interrupts on the aoes and everything works pretty well with mana for the healers and stuff..
dunno which tactic we should be sticking too, is our dps to bad for the first tactic? (1 is at 14K, 2 at 12-13K and 2 8-10K dps..)
we are dispelling the heal pretty quick aswell but somehow we are wiping in the end anyway

should we maybe skip this boss and farm bastion 2 first bosses and bwd 2 first bosses?

regards!

[Hybred]

Don't kite, tank.

[ikki42]

We tried to get to either 6 or 9 adds each time we were in a green phase, (I honestly forget which, and how long the fight took/how many green phases we got.)
Before that phase, we had our druid tank kite them around with frost traps/earthbind if it was avaiable, using Psychic Scream if needed to keep a few adds off him on the off chance he got cubed.
Nuke adds in green phase, don't attack them in other phases. All must die in green phase.
Then back to the boss.
Make sure someone is dispelling full time, even in the green phase.
Afterward, just stay out of fire, stay out of ice orbs and you are good, run if are Fixated.

[Deleted]

i wanna see you healing the tank that tanks the adds lol

[Deleted]

Interupt first wave of adds and focus dps on Maloriak, dont use bloodlust as you will need 2 green phases with current dps. Have your rogue + dk to interupt his lightning, and mage+hunter to dispell his remedy asap.

Offtank kites the adds around the room with the help of frosttrap from hunter and have the tank call out for Ring of frost from the mage when needed (when 9 adds are up).

When the green phase comes nuke the adds at the entrance (all should die, if theres any left with low hp finish them off after). Have the MT drag Maloriak back to the cauldron and interupt first cast of adds (will be one during green phase) and the lightning. Repeat this and hold dps in the end so he have a 2nd green phase where you killl the remaining adds, then push him into last phase.

Have your mage put up slowfall on the tank all the time to prevent the falldmg when you get tossed up. Pop lust/heroism/timewarp and burn him and then finish him off, OT tries to tank the 2 large adds that spawn, watch out for fixate. Move from the blue iceorbs floating in the room and stay away from boss unless youre tank or melee for the cloud.

Thats about it.

/Beef

[Deleted]

Killing 9 adds each green phase is the way to go for sure. I also want to add that since we had dps issues our first week and kept hitting enrage, we had one healer respecc dps and it was smooth sailing from there.

[Finalwish]

9 adds per green vial works fine. We had our warrior tank kite all the adds around a small frost trap circle, he only needed a 10 yard space to actually kite. he even kited 12 adds without taking much damage and it made it alot easier on us and got us the kill.

if your tank has trouble kiting around then you can get a shadow nova, or a frost nova/ ring of frost to take pressure off for a bit.

[GiveMeANameX]

2 tanks 1 ot [feral] - is how we did it with ease

let out 12-15 adds split between 1 tank and the ot,
ot on left side other tank right side as example and just pick them up,
first green phase nuke them hard and boss,
feral ot then gos on the boss and dps down,
the other tank picks up the last 3-6 adds,
next green phase nuke down,
zerg boss,
ot the 2 big adds at end,
keep nuking boss;

thats how we did it and it was rather simple;
just gotta make sure you have the dps this way before the enrage timer takes over;

[ChrisKoe]

Basically, your tactic looks fine. DPS seems to be a bit low particularly with regard to the enrage. 14k is fine, 8k is too little.
Also, don't get too many people help the kite tank (yes, they HAVE to be kited and can't be tanked, Hybred). We have one mage spec frost and nova the adds on either side of the room. Every other dps helping there means too little damage on the boss.
So, with a little practice, you should be fine. Maloriak is mainly an execution fight. Once you do everything right, the enrage timer is no problem.

[Deleted]

we did the fight with 2 healers (disc priest and holy pala) 6 dps and 2 tanks

our tactic was to gather adds for the green phase and nuke the adds down in that phase
but yeah we needed 2 green phases aswell so we had no trouble when all adds were released at the end because there were close to none except the 2 big guys that show up anyway

but yeah the fight is easily doable with 2 healers

[Deleted]

We did it with 3 healers, 2 tanks and 5 DPS.

We let out 9 adds, the warrior tank was kiting them. If the warrior tank has a hard time kiting him have the shadow priest help him with Leap of Faith.
The DK should be going for an AoE specc, as soon as the green phase starts have the DK and Hunter DPS the adds. (If they cant manage it on their own have the mage help out.)
Keep the rogue on the boss for interupts, the shadow priest should stay on the boss aswell for dispells and the fact that their aoe is worthless.
On 20% you pop Bloodlust and nuke like hell!

[blahssat]

Interrupt the first 2, get 3 sets of 3 adds, have a hunter lay down a frost trap and the warrior kites through the ice in a circle. Dont shockwave unless its an emergency. Cooldowns are cool too (2 min CDs will be ready by the time next green comes out) but save for when 9 adds are out. When green comes, bunch them all up, smack the shockwave button for 30k (60k crits), annihilate them. Repeat a second time, gg.

[Deleted]

too much healers in your setup
also I hope that adds were kiting on hunters traps to avoid useless healing spam on kiting tank
More dmg on adds in green phase they NEED to be down if u wanna do it smoothly

[Deleted]

We had issues with enrage until we went to 2 healers and it really wasn't a big issue. We also let out 9 adds per green phase and switched him to below 25% immediately after the 2nd green phase (that will probably mean holding fire for a bit). 12 adds was doable but unduly taxing on tank and healer although I guess if you kite well this might not be an issue. For interrupts we interrupted 1st and 4th add summons and let 2nd, 3rd and 5th go through. You really want to interrupt the 1st 1 during the green phase as having extra new adds up while trying to AoE down the existing lot makes things a lot trickier.

[Deleted]

As it has been said before you kite 9 adds and when the green phase is about to come see to it that DPS stand so they dont get knockback and lose time for AOE start AoE kill adds if they dont die from AoE ppl need to shape up and you rince and repeat to kill all the adds then you will be almost at nuke phase just take a breath and kill him sont stand in the fire

[Frozendekay]

We normally just tank the adds. We went in there very shortly after cata released and didnt have problems with tank healing.

That being said: 9 and 9 adds is the way to go. Your DK should go frost if he isnt, unholy AoE is fine but lacks the raw AoE burst frost can do in green phases.

Your main tank can avoid the knock up into the air by either moving through him or sidestepping quickly (I think. Havent tanked him).

The last phase is an endurance test. Roll CD's on the tank, move from the frost bombs, dps hard.

1 more thing: Interrupt Arcane Storm during green phase ASAP. It does a ton of damage.

[Deleted]

Also, don't get too many people help the kite tank (yes, they HAVE to be kited and can't be tanked, Hybred).

Yes they can.

[killzwitch]

Yes they can.

Idd, seen a few vids where they are tanked - but the dmge was spikey and with a Tomb on the tank it was brown trousers time. Kiting is preferred if you tank is up for the exercise, but for those that like to push the healers instead of the tank /angryface then have the OT just eat them all near the stairs.

[Deleted]

Our healers didn't seem to have any problems with the add-tank tanking the adds instead of kiting them, as long as we didn't get more than 9 adds at a time.
We had a Shaman on the look-out for the Icecube on the add-tank to easily break it with a Shock.

[Eleri]

with a Tomb on the tank it was brown trousers time.

This is the only reason I'd go for kiting. Our guild is preferring tanking, and honestly if we get a tomb on the add tank, it's just hit or miss no matter how quickly we break him out.

That said, we've had success with letting 6 adds out the first cycle, 9 adds out the second cycle, so that adds in the final phase aren't out of control. We find our dps is so high that in the last half of the second cycle, we have to intentionally pull off the boss to avoid pushing him early; we use that time to put some effort (albeit less effective effort since the green phase isn't up) into the 9 adds we have out.

I might have it backward--9 adds first, 6 second--but either way, you get the point. It works well for us.