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    Quote Originally Posted by axxey View Post
    If i had a trinket for every trap as well as a trinket for every scatter shot I'd never get scare beast on me either.

    If hunter is breaking their own CC early vs a feral before making use of their range allowing you to reclose quickly then they're bad pvp hunters(or not pvp spec, many use PvE).
    Back when berserk made you fear immune hunters weren't difficult.
    Like Duilliath said, you can still shift out of any form while stunned/disoriented, so also while trapped and/or scattered...

    Are you sure I'm fighting terrible Hunters? Or maybe YOU are doing something wrong instead? This sure looks like it.

    EDIT: if it wasn't difficult just because of the Fear immunity, then it's exactly the same right now. In both cases, you never get feared by a Hunter in 1v1.

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    Last edited by Balduvian; 2011-11-16 at 11:08 PM.

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    Ok CK's dueling attempt vs. Rudd a hunter that loses about 10 duels/year (he don't duel much, he barely ever loses though, multi rank 1 (I think 3 times))
    I opened on him with my focus on his monkey the first thing I did after pounce was focus kick the monkey stun, Rudd thus trinketed the pounce and decided to drop a freezing(8sec cc one I don't know if it's freezing or frost, sue me) trap, knowing he'd have monkey stun and scatter shall i trinket I however decided to sit it, knowing I'd be able to get back on him eventually and get blooms running, during the trap he didn't attempt to scare beast me, however in the scatter he started casting it to get me into caster form for his burst, (I can't SI in caster form)
    He proceeded to cast a fully cooldowned aimed shot-I had barkskin up before it landed, and as soon as it did I tried to mitigate the incoming damage from chimera shot by bearform+SI(I call it shieldwall) to no avail,I was sub 50% health(In bearform with natural reaction AND shieldwall) I popped enrage and charged him thus he freedomed himself and disengaged leaving me in a snake trap I used Stampeding Roar and as soon as I was in range(you require good MS for this if he is jumping) I used Skullbash to close distance and bashed instantly after in the bash I ate a monkey stun as my bash lasted 1 second longer I was able to get a rake up on him luckily it crit so I was at 2cp at this point it would be optimal to cyclone him to get blooms and rejuv going, so I attempted to get a PS procc with 2 cp with SR(savage roar) surprisingly I did,
    I thus cycloned him got blooms going got rejuv, and hugged the clone in catform, as soon as he got out of it he scattered me and dropped a trap he ran quite a considerable distance so I was worried, I trinketed the trap however the same second it got on me as I knew his monkey stun was on cooldown-
    He detteranced my charge dismissed pet summoned a new monkey and stunned me there where I stood at this point preety frustrated I was getting desperate having had my blooms dispelled by tranquilize in the stun, and him jumping around at 90+% with me dropping slowly below 40%(he had bad crit rng) I was at this point preety desperate, thus the next chance I got I used my ravagge mangled him and maimed him with 3cp just to get some uptime, I used TF and berserk at this point getting off 2 shreds and a rip surprisingly enough what I had done in those few globals put him at 50%, he dropped a snake trap which I sprinted out of obviously eating concussive shot/barrage from glyphed chimera shot, so I lost a couple globals shifting, but in the next 4 sec I connected I mangled his face twice, tried to get to his back to shred, soon realising I was too optimistic thus putting a rake up and savage roaring for the instant healing touch(I was dangerously low- at 20% killshots would've killed me)-
    At this point we're both at about 30%, both with no trinkets and no major defencive cooldowns, I thus know he is waiting for my bear charge with his freedom and disengage, I shifted bear and skullbashed him instead, to my content he disengaged it, so I charged him right after only to get a scatter in the charge, I lost the duel quickly after that, I stood no chance- But this has yielded success over many hunters even some gladiators, I guess Rudd is just out of my league at the moment.

    ---------- Post added 2011-11-17 at 02:00 AM ----------

    Consider the above post an in-depth feral v hunter duel have fun. (I call myself CK cuz it currently abbreviates my name) I'm also a Gladiator Feral druid, so I think you should be content.
    Last edited by Wolfdragon; 2011-11-17 at 12:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balduvian View Post
    Oh yes you can.
    I know I can, but I was just pretending to be polite

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    Feral pvp 4piece set bonus question.

    Maybe I'm forgetful, but didn't the 15% faster movement speed use to work inside houses, dungeons etc. (anywhere where you can't mount and so on.) prior to patch 4.3?

    As it is right now, the set bonus only kicks in when your outside, in mountable areas..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaxai View Post
    Feral pvp 4piece set bonus question.

    Maybe I'm forgetful, but didn't the 15% faster movement speed use to work inside houses, dungeons etc. (anywhere where you can't mount and so on.) prior to patch 4.3?

    As it is right now, the set bonus only kicks in when your outside, in mountable areas..
    It specifically says only active outdoors, if it worked indoors at some point, it must've been a bug

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    Hey all, I honestly haven't played for 1 week, and barely logged in last 4-5. Seriously thinking of not going back either. Therefore, updating this guide may find delays or no update at all, only future can tell. Nontheless, let's see where I can help you guys out with!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kanaxai View Post
    Feral pvp 4piece set bonus question.

    Maybe I'm forgetful, but didn't the 15% faster movement speed use to work inside houses, dungeons etc. (anywhere where you can't mount and so on.) prior to patch 4.3?

    As it is right now, the set bonus only kicks in when your outside, in mountable areas..
    This set bonus exists for ages now, and it has always worked indoors. It isn't in the patch-notes as far as I've seen, so it's either a stealth-nerf or unintended.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obblivion View Post
    It specifically says only active outdoors, if it worked indoors at some point, it must've been a bug
    It does indeed say "only active outdoors". However, it never said this before and has always worked indoors.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chad1522 View Post
    Freaking awesome work. Nicely done.

    Just kinda wish this stuff would find its way onto wowpedia and get updated my more people instead of one person writing one piece and then disappearing from updating it a few patches later.
    I didn't disappear (yet) if you mean me, and if it wasn't for all my friends quitting WoW, I wouldn't be thinking of doing the same. Anyway, as long as I'm here and as long as I'm playing I'll try to keep this up to date.


    Luckily for me, 4.3 didn't bring that many game breaking things (regarding a Feral PvP Guide) yet, so I hopefully have enough time to think about how to go on without decreasing the quality of this guide to much.

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    This set bonus exists for ages now, and it has always worked indoors. It isn't in the patch-notes as far as I've seen, so it's either a stealth-nerf or unintended.
    I can't for the life of me remember it working indoors. Cat Bonus didn't use to work indoors either, but that was changed.

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    I've honestly never noticed a difference between my outdoor and indoor speed, and I never wear anything else than the PvP set so I should've noticed by now. ^^ Maybe it's just me not having done anything besides logging in to check the AH once every few days for too long though.

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    Even the level 60 set has the outdoors bonus and has had it since its inception

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    I'm almost 100% certain it worked indoors before. The reason is that I remember that I used to switch my gear from pve to pvp (for the speed set bonus) whenever I came to sethekk halls to solo farm for the Anzu mount, just to plow through the instance faster.

    But your right, the tooltip does say "only works outdoors" now.
    Last edited by Kanaxai; 2011-12-09 at 11:27 AM.

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    Are you sure you arent experiencing the speed buff from your boot enchants? I dont remember the 4piece working in instances, unless it was and "outdoor" instance, like ZF or Firelands.

    Neway hate to see you go, really enjoy your guide

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    First off, merry X-mas to y'all!

    Have been PvP'ing a bit again lately, there's absolutely no difference as far as the movement speed goes compared to how it was pre 4.3. It has always worked like this. In my confusion I said it has always worked indoors, because I didn't notice a difference between 4.2 and 4.3 speed. However, it never worked indoors and it still doesn't, and they simply edited the text in the item.

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    Hey guys, I thought this might be the right threat to ask my little question:
    So I have these 3 weapons: Kiril, Fury of the Beasts(NORMAL), Spire of Coagulated Globules(HEROIC) and of course Cataclysmic Gladiator's Staff(T1).
    I think the PvP-weapon is the weakest of the 3, because not only has it the lowest damage, I'm also at 4.1k resil without it (only weapon and Vial of Shadows[H] are PvE). So whats to prefer? Weapondamage and a ton of stats or an incredible strong proc? I tend to use Kiril due to the proc beeing simply unbeatable and beeing able to swap to the resil weapon without losing my hitcap.
    At the moment I'm mostly doing 2s (ret/feral) and BGs. But I'm looking forward to RBG and 3s.
    what do you think?

    thanks in advance
    Elu

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    Hey Elumaria! Sorry for the late response, but sadly, I've quit the game by now. Therefore, anyone should correct me if I'm wrong, as I completely missed patch 4.3. However, I don't think I am as far as this subject goes.

    Anyway, I'd go with Spire of Coagulated Globules, and then just find your way around so you're not too much over the hitcap (You'll probably need to reforge some hit rating on other items into Mastery). The reason for this is, that weapon damage highly affects our damage nowadays, and this is simply the weapon with most weapon damage (not to mention the +65 Agility, +52 Stamina and +409 Mastery compared to Kiril, Fury of Beasts)

    The proc seems nice however, but it seems it sounds better than it actually is. I obviously haven't tested it, but judging from what "a friend" says, and the wowhead comments, there seems to be an 60 second ICD on it, not to mention the "full buff" doesn't last 20 seconds, as it starts counting on the first proc, so basically you'll only have 1070 Agility for 10 seconds, every 60 seconds (at max.), and obviously a lesser bonus during the other 10 seconds. The static stats you'll gain from the other weapon will outweight this in the end. The PvP staff is probably your 3rd choice, especially when you're still on 4.1k resi without it.

    Hope that was still somewhat helpful!

    - Cheers, Lashed
    Last edited by Balduvian; 2012-02-22 at 10:48 PM.

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    Hey everyone! Although I've quit, here's something nice you could look at: Pericth 5 - In depth Feral Tutorial.

    It's an up to date Feral tutorial video by Pericth, and it's worth it for starters! Enjoy!

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    So should i use 397 pvp weapon or 390 Kiril, 2s and rbgs is what i mainly do

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    kiril 390 < globules 397 < t1 < kiril 403 < globules 410 < t2 < kiril 416

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    hey, guys. the link on the talent section is redirecting to MoP calculator. can it perhaps be fixed somehow?

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    Major necro and I don't think they will ever support private servers...

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