Question about Valiona and Theralion 10n

[Thundertom]

We tried this boss yesterdaynight. Great fun of a fight! But we didn't get them down, matter of finetuning our strategy.

I wonder wondering tho;

On Theralion, does the Engulfing Magic and the black voidzones only happen on melee if you don't have enough ranged alive? (Something similar to Festerguts vomit thingie)

Don't know if it was just coincidence, but it seemed to be the case Engulfing Magic and voidzones spawned in melee after one of the ranged members had died.

Thanks in advance.

[fex]

On Theralion, does the Engulfing Magic and the black voidzones only happen on melee if you don't have enough ranged alive? (Something similar to Festerguts vomit thingie)

Yes.

If you are getting fire/debuffs on melee, it's because ranged have already failed, and it's a wipe.

Must be nice being melee on that fight... :{

[Jostin]

We tried this boss yesterdaynight. Great fun of a fight! But we didn't get them down, matter of finetuning our strategy.

I wonder wondering tho;

On Theralion, does the Engulfing Magic and the black voidzones only happen on melee if you don't have enough ranged alive? (Something similar to Festerguts vomit thingie)

Don't know if it was just coincidence, but it seemed to be the case Engulfing Magic and voidzones spawned in melee after one of the ranged members had died.

Thanks in advance.

Whats ur setup and how r u doing the boss?

We run a rogue and a arms warrior and we just keep them within 5yds of the range/healers. Just simple set up 4 spots in the room in the shape of a cross or X or NESW(stairs work) and keep the boss in the middle. Have the tank always face the tail at the range with the melee at max melee range for meteor absorption and whenever there is a void zone move to the next point make sure that you use the X or cross or w/e so that there will be like 15-20yds between void zones and every time theres a void zone have ur tank rotate the boss. Then whenever there is an engulfing magic have that person run right while everyone else moves 3-5yds to the left. It's really very easy as long as your people are smart enough to run with the meteor targets after a void zone.

[Stickmenz]

Last nite we had 1 tank, 1 melee dps & pala healer stacking at boss's face (no frontal cone), and range stacked outside. during black thing on floor all ranged moved left. engulfing magic ran out ofc no matter which grp its in.

[Thundertom]

Cheers guys. So to recap; having enough ranged will not spawn Engulfing magic or voidzones in melee.

Yeah it was one of our first cata raids, so it's all pretty new to us ATM.

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Engulfing magic can indeed be cast on a healer in melee range even if no-one died.

I assume the mechanics here are similar to Sindragosa.

[Pbstryker]

Pretty much if there is no more heals/RDPS then it will target a Melee which will follow in a wipe.... It's not that hard though have your melee stack and move if you get engulfing go the opposite direction and then get back in the stack when its gone keep Druids and locks out of the stack if you can.