Recklesness change, what do you think?

[Deleted]

it's a clear buff for PvE, no doubt. but it's some sort of nerf for PvP - for the sole reason that, as already mentioned, 12sec 20% increased damage taken is quite... hard.
but ofc, Reck+SS+BS can be some serious destruction.

Dude, just /cancelaura Recklessness if it starts looking bad.

[Leothas]

This is a nice buff too it, especially due to the Incite talent.

if you have your chance to stay on a target in arena for 12 sec with this up, you will be raping that person pretty bad.

Matches perfectly with throwdown/deadly calm.

In PvE its even more nice now for dps, 3 special attacks is nothing compared too it, and also in later tiers when you get higher crit, you will most likely reach around 75% crit when this is up if not more.

This new recklessness is feeling way closer to the old cool one which just flat out gave u 100% crit for 12 seconds on all attacks, which was awesome.

[Gronlaender]

There goes our awesome burst :/

[Argarock]

but its also kinda sad to see a move thats been around for ever and never been changed or altered at all to be changed now =P but still it seems for the good so thats cool.

lol what?
this is how recklessness used to be in tbc..
they just changed it back to how it used to be. (just with a 5 min cd instead of a 30 min xp

[lordzed83]

gr8 change thanks. Will be even better macred with all cds on pve fury.

[Butch]

but its also kinda sad to see a move thats been around for ever and never been changed or altered at all to be changed now =P but still it seems for the good so thats cool.

Maybe you shouldn't use "forever" and "never" when you started playing in wrath, it's not that long ago.

[Seramore]

It's boss like Cody Ross.

[Alianthos]

PVE wise, its huge ! And it scales, its gonna get better and better with crit rating going up.

Me liek.

[Deleted]

Good change.

:-)

[Deleted]

A lot more useful with haste and especially BL/hero even if the nerf it to 8 sec

yes because the GCDs are shorter with haste.. oh no,.. wait. they arent.
You will a maximum of GCDs in there as well as a maximum of HS but you wont fit more due to haste. the crits chance doesnt apply to autoattack..

Oh and anybody saying "durrr 20% for 12sek is a pvp nerf" is also the kind of warrior that popped recklessness while the enemy could counter it. you got stunlocked with recklessness on you had it on then and you have it on now. so either youre an idiot pvp warrior or you see that recklessness is to kill somebody or put pressure on not to pop and wait for the dmg.
seriously flawed logic there guys

[smashy1337]

it's a good change because resilience no longer reduced the chance to be critically hit by xxx , it's only reducing the damage recived , in that 12 seconds you can get more burst .

[Deleted]

PVE wise, its huge ! And it scales, its gonna get better and better with crit rating going up.

Me liek.

scaling would mean that the ability would become better by a factor or increasing amount of set points.
saying recklessness scales with critrating is like saying sex scales with a toothbrush. unless you have some sort of fetish that is

[unwirklich]

Meh. Used it on pulls while tanking, so HThrow and Shield Slam critting would grant me the eternal love of the raid boss. Need to write a /cancelaura macro now ...

[Twoshorty]

Yay, It's back to how it used to be in BC. However with 50% less.

[Alianthos]

scaling would mean that the ability would become better by a factor or increasing amount of set points.
saying recklessness scales with critrating is like saying sex scales with a toothbrush. unless you have some sort of fetish that is

Meh, you get the point. It scales with your gear. The better gear you have, the more crit rating you have, the more efficient this ability is.

[Shelly]

If you're gonna use a cooldown that increases your damage taken by 20% for 12 seconds while tanking, I wont hate you.

You healers might, though!

/cancel aura macros are nice.

And extra avoidance means never having to say you're sorry.

Either way, if you're pushing content and your healers are only worried about you at the start of a fight it's going to be nice to get in a large chunk of threat right from the get-go.