I praise your writing and suddenly I am besmearing you? Interesting.
A screwdriver isn't going to help you operate a drawer better. It might help you tighten the screws though. However, there's a short in your electric one.
Exactly the kind of brainless reply I was expecting from someone who can't fight the urge to be "aggressive" on an internet forum. But it will never occur to you that you just don't get it.Hahahaha. Get over yourself.
These forums are full of degenerates. You cannot openly express your feelings or opinion on any topic without some of them thinking that you're trying to force something upon them.
There is a movie out there by the name of Idiocracy and it's hilarious how accurate it is becoming.
The rules and machinations of grammar that we have thus set in place are suitable to our needs for communication. Perhaps "leet speak" is acceptable when texting or using some similar device. But this should not preclude proper communication of words and ideas as a whole.
The whole reason behind this thinking is to reduce ambiguity. Uncle Jack is a good example, but I fear it not quite practical for everyday use. A more concrete example would be one where letters are redacted in favor of syllabic sounds, such as a post from previous in this thread (not verbatim)
You hav to lern to talk lik everyone else (minus the numeric characters, as I cannot remember which were used in place of letters).
Because this is already read with an air of ambiguity, we must consider the possible meanings of the sentence. Could it be "You have to learn to talk, lick everyone else"? Or is it "You have to learn to talk like everyone else?" While the meaning might be clear here, the room for error is obvious. This degradation of communication must not be overlooked; the system that is in place works and, in my opinion, should not devolve into its current circulations.
My friend has a terrible grammar, and 75% of you would probably spend at least 5 minutes staring at what he says, trying to understand. I did that before, because his sentences make no sense if you read them out loud, but I've been with him for so long that it just doesn't make a difference to me now. Sometimes I still have to struggle, though. He's a nice guy, but his english is horrible.
I have no idea why people insist in shortening their words, like "you" for example. It sounds bad. It is bad.
By the way, "your" and "you're" are completely different.
This is a very far fetched assumption, you're just grasping at straws now. I could be a multi-millionaire and the person that wrote that e-mail could be a heroin junkie that lost everything due to a drug and gambling addiction, who is only going to be holding onto that job until they get their next fix. This conclusion makes about as much sense as your theory. On a side note, it's unfortunate that you seem to have a hangup on someones monetary status as their prominent defining characteristic, but I digress.That proves that even though you try this hard they are still richer...
On what planet are you drawing the correlation here? You have no idea what I do, or what type of education I have. Again, assumptions based on absolutely no facts. I will give you a hint though, I can get a job that's a little more prestigious than an insurance broker's secretary....and more intelligent than you are.
But, if you are referring to the Insurance Company itself being "richer and more intelligent", it's one of the ones that needed a Bailout, so it's neither.
Likewise.I'm glad you brought this up.
I don't even...K.O.
This will be the last batch of Troll snacks I'll be throwing your way, though.
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"Being wrong is erroneously associated with failure. When in fact to be proven wrong should be celebrated. It is [being elevated] to a new level of understanding." - Peter Joseph
ZOMG! Play NES games in your browser!Originally Posted by Beazy
I can't stand the whiners who whine about people whining about grammar. Uhh....at least I think that is right. Anyways, grammar is important. I might not be like my mother who will correct anyone and everyone but, personally, if I say or spell something incorrectly I like to know. It saddens me that our generation has so little pride in the way they speak. Sorry, but if you can't speak properly, you sound stupid. And yes, you SHOULD care what other people think. It bothers me that younger people have this "I don't care" attitude about EVERYTHING.
How about we just replace jesus with nothing? Or an intrinsic sense of self worth that doesn't necessitate external organization of control and manipulation?Well in that cases I guess You could start a crusade to get people to replace "Jesus" with "Yeshua" if proper grammar is that important to you.
But I digress. Yeshua, while using the roman alphabet, is not English. Jesus is the English translation of Yeshua. This is not a grammatical disparity, it is an entirely separate language. Your point might carry weight if the OP was demanding that all people named Jack must be called Jaques on purely grammatical grounds.
As for the topic of proper grammar in general. The English language is constantly evolving, this is true. Leet speaking or text messaging are not a replacement for actual English any more than ebonics or jive are. It remains to be seen what the longevity and ubiquity of these new short hands will be. I can't recall recently hearing the phrase "Let's truck on down to the gin mill and slide our jibs" but at one time this was a decipherable sub set of English. The purpose of those subsets was largely one of cultural identity. Using these vernaculars showed you to be part of, or at least supportive of those cultures. To use these sociolects in inappropriate circles would result in confusion, disdain, or at least a sense that you did not belong. In order to decide for yourself whether you think proper English grammar is important, you must ask yourself the following; is gaming a cultural subset that you wish to be associated with? Are you comfortable with the perceptions people outside of that subset will have of you? And most importantly, does it make you seem cool to speak/type that way?
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If you mean which two I meant: Klink and that fat guard who always witnesses Hogan's shenanigans but never says a word.
Of course, I have to acknowledge that most likely not all other guards were Nazi supporters, as was the case with every German during that time, but we just don't know about them.
I have enough of EA ruining great franchises and studios, forcing DRM and Origin on their games, releasing incomplete games only to sell day-1 DLCs or spill dozens of DLCs, and then saying it, and microtransactions, is what players want, stopping players from giving EA games poor reviews, as well as deflecting complaints with cheap PR tricks.
I'm not going to buy any game by EA as long as they continue those practices.
I mean, if you don't take the time (or don't want) to write something that's understandable, I think that you actually don't have anything interesting/useful/funny/cool to share with others.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but "Why is proper grammar important" would be a much more sounding as far as sentence composition goes. Mr Original Poster, you need to be properly edumacated yourself.
Now English is not my first language...
I usually compare writing to the spoken language, I don't mind someone speaking with a certain dialect as accent. It's the same with writing, it evolves and can be understood anyways regardless.'
Not sure if grammar and spelling is the same thing, but it's probably connected